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Sly You also Mentioned the DP Power Ups in a Post further Up. I doubt Humans would just place those anywhere. Why didn't the Survivors try to use them before they where killed? also some of those DP Power Ups are in Skaarj Infested Areas why didn't the Troopers use them? The Skaarj are Intelligent and they like any other race Seek Advanced Technology so Power Ups would be one of their Objectives.

It would have made for a greater battle fighting SkaarJ Troopers with Powered Up DPs.

Someone mentioned that the Skaarj Troopers could own Dispersion Pistols because they raided some spaceships or something of that kind. Now, maybe the Skaarj didn't know what the powerups were for, it could be that they don't understand human language at all since they maybe have no translator or just don't care to read what is written there and the DP powerup has no inscription "his is a powerup for the DP!" on it either. Maybe the humans didn't get to use them because they were slaughtered or maybe they are really expensive to produce and thus rare? Keep in mind that the concept of the DP on the Vortex Rikers would be to deal damage, but not kill, while powerups might make it too strong, for lethal fights they had the Automag after all. The Nali found some of the humans, found some DP powerups and hid them so that when one of those "weird creatures" (humans) would arrive and one of them would happen to be the messiah, they could offer it to him or have something to give to him as a thank you for a heroic action he did, like saving a Nali for example.

Or maybe there was some survivor of some previous crash who couldn't get off the planet, became crazy and started to hide ammo, weapons and powerups on Na Pali and died a peaceful death... by the claw of a Skaarj.

my theory is that skaarj can't read. the symbols on their computer panels are just for show .

That is not True the SkaarJ Mothership is full of Computers that Tell you what Everything does. If they Skaarj can't read then they wouldn't beable to Write or Preform Function such as keeping Life Support Active.

Something that I noticed is that in the ISV-Kran, according to the logs left by crew members they defended it from Titans and Skaarj with Stingers. The question is, how did they get such a big supply of them?

I thought the Kran was transporting ASMDs?

you could also find a gesbiorifle on the isv-kran in a resupply room.

True but the Troopers could have brought the Bio Rifle on board then decided that they want to use the ASMD rather then the Bio Rifle.

well the skaarj are at na pali for the tarydium. if they where there for killing nali there would't be any nali at the planet left by the time the player comes around.

True, but they could also be there because their ships are there in sever need of fuel. It's possible that a stray fleet of Skaarj escaped the wrath of another race killing and enslaving them (U2) in their own solar system. Their ships run out of the hyper-compacted quantum energy, and in a desperate run for fuel, their units crash-land on several of the planets in the 'Gryphon system', thenwards realizing that tarydium has similar qualities to that of the QE. The  major genocide of the Nali population is just a 'side-product' of the Skaarj's desperate search to find enough tarydium to try and convert it into QE. At any rate, tarydium probably takes quite some time to be compacted into QE. The Skaarj, in light of this fact, create outposts to process the tarydium, and send it to the mothership on that planet. But since the mothership of NaPali was severely damaged by Prisoner 849, the Skaarj of NaPali now have little or no chance of ever being rescued, as their pods are designed for space travel, not escaping the atmosphere gravitational pull of a planet, as is seen at the end of U1.

Hey, this is kinda fun!

@William R : Where did you figure out about the Gryphon System? I just called it the NaPali system. 

True, but they could also be there because their ships are there in sever need of fuel. It's possible that a stray fleet of Skaarj escaped the wrath of another race killing and enslaving them (U2) in their own solar system. Their ships run out of the hyper-compacted quantum energy, and in a desperate run for fuel, their units crash-land on several of the planets in the 'Gryphon system', thenwards realizing that tarydium has similar qualities to that of the QE. The  major genocide of the Nali population is just a 'side-product' of the Skaarj's desperate search to find enough tarydium to try and convert it into QE. At any rate, tarydium probably takes quite some time to be compacted into QE. The Skaarj, in light of this fact, create outposts to process the tarydium, and send it to the mothership on that planet. But since the mothership of NaPali was severely damaged by Prisoner 849, the Skaarj of NaPali now have little or no chance of ever being rescued, as their pods are designed for space travel, not escaping the atmosphere gravitational pull of a planet, as is seen at the end of U1.

could be but then how did they reach those out of place locations like na pali haven? they ofcourse could have used the lift but how do you get an entire outpost trought a lift that small? also, what are they doing up there anyway? there is enough tarydium down on the surface so why going trought all the trouble making an outpost there? and don't they have a small ship in there which could fly? if they are out of fuel and still didn't manage to create QE out of tarydium then how does that thing fly? besides, the mothership doesn't really look like it crashed on the planet.

Who says they don't just think "time to expand", saw that Na Pali was a planet with perfect living circumstances, Tarydium (a way to make money - who says they don't have a system with money too?) and Nali which they can enslave for their own needs and torture to be pleased and have some fun?

Also, I'm still convinced the Skaarj mothership in AS-Mothership in UT2004 is just the repaired mothership from Na Pali - and the Skaarj are just p1553d at 849 because he hindered their plans and killed the Queen. So, because they are very revenge-based creatures, they thought "so, let's try to find out where the planet of those humans is and try yet another genocide - but much bigger and more brutal!". Maybe they started killing Nali because they didn't obey or helped humans? The one in Rrajigar gets attacked because he wants to help you and give you the Stinger after all.

Keeper: Where did you figure out about the Gryphon System? I just called it the NaPali system.

http://liandri.beyondunreal.com/Na_Pali

@roland285 :

They used the ships that were still functional, hence the ship in the hangar.

The entire mothership was, likely, patched up by its owners, and only the sections that have remained buried underground haven't been repaired, hence comes this need:

The outpost of NaPali, with the help of the intact ship(s), is built, and the Skaarj begin transmitting destress signals to all the other crashes ships, but the signals are far too weak, even though they are 10 kilometers up in the sky (give or take 2-5 km). The transmitter of the mothership either didn't yield enough intact parts to suffice for a new one in the outpost, or the Mercenaries successfully damaged one of the ships that was transporting it to from the mothership, and it was destroyed on impact, leaving not even a fragment of the transmitter to scrap. The ships ran on spare QE, otherwise, more than enough to make it up to NaPali Haven and back to the mothership, but the Skaarj knew something in reference to their current situation would happen to them, and decided to ignore the ships and pods for the time being ( like oh... 20 minutes before they crashed? ). They were trying to signal to eachother that they're alive, and perhaps work out a plan with which they would.

@Sly. : I say they don't just think that it's 'time to expand'. They DID crash-land, after all, and like I said : the genocide and enslavement of the Nalis is just a side-product of this accident. And after all, I don't think they refer to William R's sig that much (sorry if this offends ya WR.)

@iLiketheUDK : Doh, I desc'd the whole 'Stinger' story a couple of posts ago! :-/


Otherwise, I think that the Skaarj mothership from UT2004 is another one, if P849 wrecked thorougly enough, or otherwise the Skaarj somehow managed to restore it to full functionality, and attack Earth for P849's I-am-a-total-jerkface-mothership-wreckah-ness, and to avenge the loss of Xerania (the Queen's name from Legacy.)

@Sly: I think the mothership collapsed after 849 killed the queen. Also, it's not clear, but from all messages I infer that the Skaarj mothership on NaPali crushlanded. A critical engine failure, non-repairable without the spare parts and resources of a more advanced infrastructure than the one found on NaPali, the Skaarj settle on NaPali, via domination of what they must perceive as a more primitive culture (the Nali), enslaving the Nali to their labor. The mothership's powercore is still fully operational (only thruster and engine components are destroyed) and power the mothership, which now is used as central hub of operations, as well as surrounding makeshift facilities.

So in short those Skaarj on NaPali are as deserted as the Humans, but their numbers and technology (operational mothership as well), allow them to dominate part of the planet's elements. On a side note, the Krall crew they carried with them, now serve heavy labor in resource acquisition and Nali slavery.

It all fits kinda. Although there is one loose end: RTNP
The Skaarj return there with a (new) warlord? Maybe a later expedition...

It's the same Warlord I guess, well, after killing the Queen, it was time to kill him too I guess.

But yeah, I think I was wrong now.

The Warlord you fight in the Power Core is the same Warlord you fought in the Volcano after he Teleported because he is a Cheater *Die with some Honor* The Warlord you fought at the end of RTNP was a Different Warlord.

Also the Tarydium is the Reason why the Ships Crashed maybe the Skaarj where Mining the Tarydium to see if they could Experiment on the Crystal and Reverse the Gravitational Field or Magnetic Field so that they could Leave.

Also the Tarydium is the Reason why the Ships Crashed maybe the Skaarj where Mining the Tarydium to see if they could Experiment on the Crystal and Reverse the Gravitational Field or Magnetic Field so that they could Leave.

Maybe they just have some use for it. Including as ammo for the stinger. they don't seem to have problems with the favitational field on NaPali, given how many small ships can be seen flying (in the Castle for example, or the space shuttle the player uses at the end of the game).

Because the Smaller Ships aren't that Heavy and can escape the Gravitation Field Easily the Only Drawback is that they can't hold very much the Skaarj Shuttle can probably hold 2 SkaarJ and the SkaarJ Escape Pod can probably Hold 1 Queen but it doesn't have enough Fuel so if the Queen Escaped she would be Drifting in Orbit like P849.

I think the Point is to get the Mothership off the Planet so that the Skaarj can go and Invade other Worlds.

The mothership isn't crashed. Everything on board works and looks fine.

Then that tells you that the SkaarJ are Intelligent if their Mothership can Negate the Gravitational Field. Unless they stole that Technology from another race which wouldn't surprise me.

Who says they don't just think "time to expand", saw that Na Pali was a planet with perfect living circumstances, Tarydium (a way to make money - who says they don't have a system with money too?) and Nali which they can enslave for their own needs and torture to be pleased and have some fun?

Also, I'm still convinced the Skaarj mothership in AS-Mothership in UT2004 is just the repaired mothership from Na Pali - and the Skaarj are just p1553d at 849 because he hindered their plans and killed the Queen. So, because they are very revenge-based creatures, they thought "so, let's try to find out where the planet of those humans is and try yet another genocide - but much bigger and more brutal!". Maybe they started killing Nali because they didn't obey or helped humans? The one in Rrajigar gets attacked because he wants to help you and give you the Stinger after all.

You pretty much said my own opinion in the most accurate way possible. Great minds think alike, they say, and apparently they were right in this case...

Anyway, here's an idea of mine for a new Unreal game, which takes on that theory and some others: /cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1350437599/23#23

Doh, I desc'd the whole 'Stinger' story a couple of posts ago!  :-/

Can you please direct me to the page where that post is?

The Warlord you fight in the Power Core is the same Warlord you fought in the Volcano after he Teleported because he is a Cheater *Die with some Honor*.

LOL Hey, Admin, can you please ban the Warlord for using cheats? He's did some hax and teleports all over the place to random locations around the map.

[/quote]LOL Hey, Admin, can you please ban the Warlord for using cheats? He's did some hax and teleports all over the place to random locations around the map.[/quote]

No he Doesn't Teleport around the Map. Once you get his Health down low he Teleports to the Mothership.

It was a joke William, a good joke though. I lol'd.

It was a joke William, a good joke though. I lol'd.

The First Part was a Joke. The Second Part didn't sound like a Joke to me.

The First Part was a Joke. The Second Part didn't sound like a Joke to me.

I'm not that good at jokes, so don't be surprised that I stall in circumstances like this one.