UPak in UT?

GreatEmerald · Post by **GreatEmerald** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 6:10 pm

Is it possible to somehow make UPak maps run on UT like Unreal maps do? I've tried copying all files from my Unreal CD that are not in UT, but I think it needs some editing to know how to use those files! If it is possible to make UPak work, then it would be brilliant and more maps from Unreal RtNP would be available for UT!
So, if you know if it's possible, please post... Any information would be helpful!
And if you have questions, post them too.

Shivaxi · Post by **Shivaxi** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 2:32 am

did u remember to copy the DLL files to?

GreatEmerald · Post by **GreatEmerald** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 9:33 am

Yes, I did. I copied all of the files (without replacing any). UPak.dll is there as well.

Shivaxi · Post by **Shivaxi** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:17 pm

huh...what happened when u tried to play the maps on UT?

GreatEmerald · Post by **GreatEmerald** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 2:34 pm

It says something like that (hard to copy it from UnrealT, I guess would be easier to do that from UED...):

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Can't find ObjectProperty in file "ObjectProperty Engine.Console.TimeDemo"

Does it make any sence?

Post by **Smirftsch** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:15 pm

no chance this way. Use usaar33's oldskool mod for such things, it has an enhancement to play ugold maps as well in UT.
www.usaar33.com

GreatEmerald · Post by **GreatEmerald** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:03 pm

Oooh, thanks, this mod is really cool! Checking it out now

GreatEmerald · Post by **GreatEmerald** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:25 pm

Nope, no luck, though that mod is really very cool!
Any other suggestions?

Post by **TCP_Wolf** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:44 am

It says something like that (hard to copy it from UnrealT, I guess would be easier to do that from UED...):
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Can't find ObjectProperty in file "ObjectProperty Engine.Console.TimeDemo"
Does it make any sence?

I can tell you exactly what this means, just like a couple of other coders here, but you would find the explanation boring and complicated ;-) In short, in UT some base classes have been changed so they are not directly compatible with old Unreal classes. That's why more "primitive" mods made for Unreal will work fine in UT, whereas larger ones or more complicated ones usually will not.

GreatEmerald · Post by **GreatEmerald** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 3:31 pm

So it's totally incompatible with UT?

Post by **TCP_Wolf** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:11 am

In short: YES!

With other mods where sources are fully available I would have said "just try recompiling it in UT", but UPak is a large package with lots of resources and a DLL dependancy. So unless you find a UT specific port or recreation for it, forget it.

GreatEmerald · Post by **GreatEmerald** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:09 pm

Wait a minute, the Arena Mod says that UPak weapons can be in UT, as they are included in the list. And if it's not, how can that be?

Post by **TCP_Wolf** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:14 pm

If somebody recreated UPak for UT, that's possible, but a shitload of work, maybe a ripoff with questionable legal status, or some hack... dunno, the mod would have to be carefully inspected to yield an answer. It's also possible that at some point UPak --USED TO BE-- compatible to UT, since we know the package has undergone several changes before it was 226b (the Napali map pack for 224/225 contains a UPak that predates 224). But that is all guessworking....

GreatEmerald · Post by **GreatEmerald** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 12:31 pm

As usually, Google has the answers

Here's what I found, might be interesting:
http://www.geocities.com/atifriaz/unreal.htm
They say that they made UPak posible under UT, and I'm now downloading the mod to see if it works. Would be cool to play UPak single player again lol!

EDIT: It works! Almost perfectly! Somehow when I start playing the episode, they give me a black screen, but normal maps do work! And where it says "change Console=UTMenu.UTConsole to Console=UPak.UPakConsole", it's best not to do so, because if you do you will get 2 nasty errors while starting to play as well as old Unreal interface!

myhouse_1991 · Post by **myhouse_1991** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:34 am

[ch1050][ch1090][ch1086] [ch1079][ch1085][ch1072][ch1077][ch1090], [ch1072] [ch1084][ch1086][ch1078][ch1085][ch1086] [ch1083][ch1080] [ch1074][ch1079][ch1103][ch1090][ch1100] [ch1086][ch1088][ch1091][ch1078][ch1080][ch1103] [ch1080][ch1079] [ch1072][ch1076][ch1076][ch1086][ch1085][ch1072] [ch1042][ch1086][ch1079][ch1074][ch1088][ch1072][ch1097][ch1077][ch1085][ch1080][ch1077] [ch1074] [ch1053][ch1072][ch1087][ch1072][ch1083][ch1080] (Upak) [ch1080] [ch1074][ch1089][ch1090][ch1072][ch1074][ch1080][ch1090][ch1100] [ch1074] UT'[ch1089][ch1082][ch1091][ch1102] [ch1084][ch1091][ch1083][ch1100][ch1090][ch1080][ch1087][ch1083][ch1077][ch1077][ch1088][ch1085][ch1091][ch1102] [ch1080][ch1075][ch1088][ch1091] [ch1080][ch1089][ch1087][ch1086][ch1083][ch1100][ch1079][ch1091][ch1103] [ch1084][ch1086][ch1076] StuffSwapper?

Who knows it is possible to take the weapons from addon Return to Napaly (Upak) and to insert into UT multiplayer game using mod StuffSwapper?

GreatEmerald · Post by **GreatEmerald** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:00 pm

Not sure, but with Arena Match you really can do it. Though I think you can.

myhouse_1991 · Post by **myhouse_1991** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:33 am

[ch1055][ch1086][ch1082][ch1072][ch1087][ch1072][ch1083][ch1089][ch1103] [ch1074] [ch1089][ch1082][ch1088][ch1080][ch1087][ch1090][ch1072][ch1093] Upak [ch1080] [ch1074][ch1089][ch1090][ch1072][ch1074][ch1080][ch1083] [ch1074] [ch1084][ch1091][ch1090][ch1072][ch1090][ch1086][ch1088] StuffSwapper [ch1080] [ch1089][ch1082][ch1072][ch1095][ch1072][ch1083] [ch1101][ch1090][ch1086] http://www.oldunreal.com/tools/utsingletools/RTNP2UT.zip ([ch1092][ch1080][ch1082][ch1089], [ch1076][ch1072][ch1102][ch1097][ch1080][ch1081] [ch1080][ch1075][ch1088][ch1072][ch1090][ch1100] [ch1074] [ch1072][ch1076][ch1076][ch1086][ch1085]). [ch1053][ch1091] [ch1080] [ch1074][ch1089][ch1077] [ch1088][ch1072][ch1073][ch1086][ch1090][ch1072][ch1077][ch1090]! [ch1052][ch1086][ch1078][ch1085][ch1086] [ch1101][ch1090][ch1080][ch1084][ch1080] [ch1086][ch1088][ch1091][ch1078][ch1080][ch1103][ch1084][ch1080] [ch1080][ch1075][ch1088][ch1072][ch1090][ch1100] [ch1074] [ch1076][ch1088][ch1091][ch1075][ch1080][ch1077] [ch1090][ch1080][ch1087][ch1099] [ch1080][ch1075][ch1088]! :-).

I Find in Upak scripts and inserted to mutator StuffSwapper and has downloaded it http://www.oldunreal.com/tools/utsingletools/RTNP2UT.zip (a fix, giving to play addon). And all works! It is possible to play these weapons in other types of games! :-).

[ch1044][ch1083][ch1103] [ch1090][ch1077][ch1093], [ch1082][ch1090][ch1086] [ch1085][ch1077] [ch1078][ch1077][ch1083][ch1072][ch1077][ch1090] [ch1082][ch1086][ch1087][ch1072][ch1090][ch1100][ch1089][ch1103] [ch1074] [ch1089][ch1082][ch1088][ch1080][ch1087][ch1090][ch1072][ch1093], [ch1076][ch1072][ch1102] [ch1074][ch1072][ch1084] [ch1091][ch1078][ch1077] [ch1075][ch1086][ch1090][ch1086][ch1074][ch1099][ch1077] [ch1089][ch1082][ch1088][ch1080][ch1090][ch1099] [ch1076][ch1083][ch1103] [ch1092][ch1072][ch1081][ch1083][ch1072] StuffSwapperItems.ini ([ch1074] [ch1087][ch1072][ch1087][ch1082][ch1077] system [ch1080][ch1075][ch1088][ch1099], [ch1086][ch1090][ch1082][ch1088][ch1099][ch1074][ch1072][ch1090][ch1100] [ch1083][ch1102][ch1073][ch1099][ch1084] [ch1090][ch1077][ch1082][ch1089][ch1090][ch1086][ch1074][ch1099][ch1084] [ch1088][ch1077][ch1076][ch1072][ch1082][ch1090][ch1086][ch1088][ch1086][ch1084])

For those who does not wish to search scripts of weapons, I give alerdy ready scripts for file StuffSwapperItems.ini (in system folder of game, open there in any text editor)

[ch1054][ch1088][ch1091][ch1078][ch1080][ch1103]/Weapons

Weapon[???]=MOD:Upak DES:Combat Assault Rifle STR:UPak.CARifle AMO:UPak.CARifleClip
Weapon[???]=MOD:Upak DES:Rocket launcher STR:UPak.Rocketlauncher AMO:UPak.RLAmmo
Weapon[???]=MOD:Upak DES:Grenade launcher STR:UPak.Grenadelauncher AMO:UPak.GLAmmo

[ch1055][ch1072][ch1090][ch1088][ch1086][ch1085][ch1099]/Ammo

Ammo[???]=MOD:Upak DES:Combat Assault Rifle Ammo STR:UPak.CARifleClip
Ammo[???]=MOD:Upak DES:Rocket launcher Ammo STR:UPak.RLAmmo
Ammo[???]=MOD:Upak DES:Grenade launcher Ammo STR:UPak.GLAmmo

[ch1043][ch1076][ch1077]

[ch1087][ch1086][ch1088][ch1103][ch1076][ch1082][ch1086][ch1074][ch1099][ch1081] [ch1085][ch1086][ch1084][ch1077][ch1088]
(Where

A serial number (I can not precisely translate it on English))

myhouse_1991 · Post by **myhouse_1991** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 7:37 am

[ch1055][ch1086][ch1078][ch1072][ch1083][ch1091][ch1081][ch1089][ch1090][ch1072] [ch1087][ch1086][ch1084][ch1086][ch1075][ch1080][ch1090][ch1077] [ch1089] [ch1079][ch1072][ch1087][ch1091][ch1089][ch1082][ch1086][ch1084] [ch1086][ch1076][ch1080][ch1085][ch1086][ch1095][ch1085][ch1086][ch1081] [ch1080][ch1075][ch1088][ch1099] [ch1074] UT [ch1089] [ch1072][ch1076][ch1076][ch1086][ch1085][ch1086][ch1084]. [ch1054][ch1085] [ch1087][ch1080][ch1096][ch1077][ch1090] [ch1084][ch1085][ch1077] [ch1086][ch1096][ch1080][ch1073][ch1082][ch1091] CAN't FIND FILE FOR PACKPAGE 'goodrail'. [ch1071] [ch1089][ch1082][ch1086][ch1087][ch1080][ch1088][ch1086][ch1074][ch1072][ch1083] [ch1074][ch1089][ch1077] [ch1092][ch1072][ch1081][ch1083][ch1099] [ch1089] [ch1042][ch1086][ch1079][ch1074][ch1088][ch1072][ch1097][ch1077][ch1085][ch1080][ch1077] [ch1074] [ch1053][ch1072][ch1087][ch1072][ch1083][ch1080] ([ch1054][ch1090] Gold Edition) [ch1073][ch1077][ch1079] [ch1079][ch1072][ch1084][ch1077][ch1085][ch1099] [ch1080] [ch1103] [ch1091][ch1078][ch1077] [ch1087][ch1086][ch1089][ch1090][ch1072][ch1074][ch1080][ch1083] [ch1092][ch1080][ch1082][ch1089]....

Help! When I run a singleplayer game in UT with addon. He write me a error - CAN't FIND FILE FOR PACKPAGE 'goodrail' I copy all files from Return to Napaly (From Gold Edition) without overwrite and I already installed a fix....

GreatEmerald · Post by **GreatEmerald** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:27 pm

Goodrail? Never heard of. Doesn't it run after you get the error? I have no idea, if you copied everything it should all be all right.

Leo T_C_K · Post by **Leo T_C_K** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:36 pm

RTNP2UT is messed up kinda, I recommend the other one, the one which was avaiable at infiltration forums at BeyondUnreal, that Upak is better. However BU is down now, so....................

GreatEmerald · Post by **GreatEmerald** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:20 pm

Huh? There is something better than that? I want BU back!

Leo T_C_K · Post by **Leo T_C_K** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:41 pm

No, but it is more direct conversion (latest one by Usaar33 which is nowhere to get) and rtnp2ut has too many bugs, which original Upak didn't have.

JD · Post by JD » Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:44 am

No, but it is more direct conversion (latest one by Usaar33 which is nowhere to get)

Actually BeyondUnreal hosts Usaar33's website. It recently fixed the link on its homepage so that it points to the current location: http://astaley.beyondunreal.com/about.html

Of course BeyondUnreal now has its own hosting problems, but it appears as of right now that the Usaar33 site is accessible though it is slow.

Leo T_C_K · Post by **Leo T_C_K** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:44 am

No, but these archives are kind of damaged and there isn't that exact version which was ran on infiltration coop servers.

GreatEmerald · Post by **GreatEmerald** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:34 pm

Wow, by Usaar? That means I can get UPak singleplay to work if I get the mod. That's why Oldskool has the option for RtNP.
Come on, when will BU get back on?!

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