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Quake editor is better
Nov 20th, 2019 at 5:13pm
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This is probably the best low-poly level editor I've ever seen. You can do the most with the least amount of clicks (at least for some types of architecture). It's a bit similar to the Cube 2 engine (in fact, it was inspired by it), but even better.

It turns out to be also capable of exporting to OBJ, which can be elegantly converted to T3D and imported into Unreal or UT. I wrote a little tool which does that.

Disadvantages:
- The editor requires D3D11 support. (or not? They mention WinXP support)
- The texture alignment won't be preserved.
- You can't convert back.

And here's an example map showing what can be easily done (textured and finished in UEd).

Screenshots (because imgur is broken):
https://drive.google.com/open?id=12u92VCNwag-7LaDI_QoVTPz_oxKCW6uH
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1FpNdPcGkIcL-xOlGFV9QkLmlSzyuVQ-e
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1-3e9SXiXmVTHnHclj5zRCIu39k45hwv8
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1zTJ7D-IflDYZQku28ES00vKS-feKzIrJ
  

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Re: Quake editor is better
Reply #1 - Nov 20th, 2019 at 5:54pm
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yrex . wrote on Nov 20th, 2019 at 5:13pm:
Disadvantages:
- The texture alignment won't be preserved.
- You can't convert back.


Sounds like it's time to create a pull request on their git repo to add a t3d importer/exporter Wink

I don't know of anywhere that has a published spec for it off hand, but if there is one perhaps it could be done. All depends on what needs to be done for the UVs and alignment, really.

makes me wonder if it's possible to edit it into working with unreal actors and such too for their seemingly cool/accurate placing of actors. of course that's a whole new can of worms with opening unreal packages and reading meshes and such.. a daunting task compared to just an additional t3d importer/exporter.

obj export call: https://github.com/kduske/TrenchBroom/blob/bde7d4840ba36817a97a4a68f52762feac6c5...

obj serializer: https://github.com/kduske/TrenchBroom/blob/46355e3953a34353fd878f46ae26f76dea42e...

  
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Reply #2 - Nov 20th, 2019 at 8:11pm
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It looks very quick indeed. Most of the functionalities demonstrated in the video are nothing new but they seem much less painful than UnrealEd, especially 3 points clipping which stands out to me as previewed in real time. Quite cool.
  

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Reply #3 - Nov 20th, 2019 at 8:24pm
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Merging, extruding, cutting, on faces and edges would be also an damn awesome feature for Unreal Ed. I think I'll give this thing a try. Looks promising maybe its a good alternative for blender to build lowpoly geometry.
  

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Reply #4 - Nov 20th, 2019 at 8:45pm
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The clipping tool in Ued2.2 does a similar thing to 'cutting' (I think if you mean the same thing I think you mean), but sometimes it can cause some unstable BSP. Sad
  

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Reply #5 - Nov 21st, 2019 at 4:10pm
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Is it better than Unreal Engine 1,Gold Source Engine? Are you talking about Id Tech Engine 2?
  
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luke11685 wrote on Nov 21st, 2019 at 4:10pm:
Is it better than Unreal Engine 1,Gold Source Engine? Are you talking about Id Tech Engine 2?


It's not about the engine but about the editor.
  

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Reply #7 - Nov 23rd, 2019 at 1:53pm
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So in that case I guess it's Valve Hammer Editor,Quake Level Editor or Unreal Editor 1,right?
  
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Reply #8 - Nov 23rd, 2019 at 5:24pm
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Yes, these are editors. IdTech games and derivatives can use a variety of editors as long as the correct compilers are then used to process the map for the desired game. In Unreal however, the editor is largely limited to UnrealEd, which is fully integrated with the engine.
  

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