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Masterkent Developer Team Offline Posts: 1177 Location: Russia Joined: Apr 5^th, 2013 Gender:	Issue #44. Double call to Trigger.Touch when touching a Trigger just once Feb 1^st, 2017 at 10:13am	Print Post
	Sometimes entering the collision cylinder of a Trigger results in two calls to Trigger.Touch. This may lead to unwanted effects, such as doubled triggered messages and double toggling. A double toggling can be very frequently observed on SkyBase.unr (when you try to use some button that controls a door, the corresponding trigger often activates the door even number of times resulting in an opening followed by an immediate closing or a closing followed by an immediate opening). Whenever Touch is called twice per single approach, the first call takes place when the collision cylinders of the player and the trigger do not intersect, and such a call is followed by the corresponding call to UnTouch on the same tick. The next call to Touch is then performed on the next tick, when the collision cylinders intersect: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0-wW1TCOE8


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Leo T_C_K Betatester Offline Posts: 1968 Joined: Aug 27^th, 2005 Gender:	RE: Issue #44. Double call to Trigger.Touch when touching a Trigger just once Reply #1 - Feb 1^st, 2017 at 10:48am	Print Post
	zeur confirms: "(due to a whirlwind of events I haven't gotten around to implementing hyper's proposed solution, or just about anything else with the craptop, so STFU about that) Masterkent wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 10:13am: Sometimes entering the collision cylinder of a Trigger results in two calls to Trigger.Touch. This may lead to unwanted effects, such as doubled triggered messages and double toggling. A double toggling can be very frequently observed on SkyBase.unr (when you try to use some button that controls a door, the corresponding trigger often activates the door even number of times resulting in an opening followed by an immediate closing or a closing followed by an immediate opening)." Present in 225f. Noticed it when writing korax.ProximityDoor. Didn't make the link w/ the SkyBase door (which I'm otherwise well aware of), though. Quote: Whenever Touch is called twice per single approach, the first call takes place when the collision cylinders of the player and the trigger do not intersect, and such a call is followed by the corresponding call to UnTouch on the same tick. The next call to Touch is then performed on the next tick, when the collision cylinders intersect: [snip ad] I haven't confirmed that part, but it sounds likely. --zeur."

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)Leela(-[otS]- Full Member Offline Oldunreal member Posts: 189 Location: Germany Joined: May 31^st, 2011 Gender:	Re: Issue #44. Double call to Trigger.Touch when touching a Trigger just once Reply #2 - Feb 1^st, 2017 at 10:54am	Print Post
	This is one of the most annoying things with Triggers and Movers set to TriggerToggle when Players or other Pawns touching the Trigger directly. I can't count how many workarounds I made for such situations and it was even worse when the Movers or Triggers also were set to TriggerOnceOnly. I really hope, that this annoying "double call" problem can somehow be fixed in the future.


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Leo T_C_K Betatester Offline Posts: 1968 Joined: Aug 27^th, 2005 Gender:	RE: Issue #44. Double call to Trigger.Touch when touching a Trigger just once Reply #3 - Feb 1^st, 2017 at 11:09am	Print Post
	zeur sighs: ")Leela(-[otS]- wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 10:54am: This is one of the most annoying things with Triggers and Movers set to TriggerToggle when Players or other Pawns touching the Trigger directly. I can't count how many workarounds I made for such situations and it was even worse when the Movers or Triggers also were set to TriggerOnceOnly. Yeah, this kind of problem made me invent korax.ActionSpecial in the first place. That and UnrealBloat(tm). Quote: I really hope, that this annoying "double call" problem can somehow be fixed in the future. Let's just hope the fix won't break too much existing stuff.[1] --zeur. [1] I wouldn't mind breaking compat if Unreal were rewritten altogether, but alas, that ain't going to happen anytime soon..."

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Masterkent Developer Team Offline Posts: 1177 Location: Russia Joined: Apr 5^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Issue #44. Double call to Trigger.Touch when touching a Trigger just once Reply #4 - Feb 1^st, 2017 at 11:29am	Print Post
	Leo T_C_K wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 10:48am: Quote: Whenever Touch is called twice per single approach, the first call takes place when the collision cylinders of the player and the trigger do not intersect, and such a call is followed by the corresponding call to UnTouch on the same tick. The next call to Touch is then performed on the next tick, when the collision cylinders intersect: [snip ad] I haven't confirmed that part, but it sounds likely. Actually that's demonstrated on the video that you called "ad" (LOL). I modified the UScript code of Engine.Trigger so it indicated the horizontal and vertical overlapping of the collision cylinders of the trigger and the pawn. Negative values imply no overlapping. The game performed ~60 ticks per second, and the number of ticks between the adjacent messages can be calculated based on the time stamps.


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Leo T_C_K Betatester Offline Posts: 1968 Joined: Aug 27^th, 2005 Gender:	RE: Issue #44. Double call to Trigger.Touch when touching a Trigger just once Reply #5 - Feb 1^st, 2017 at 12:32pm	Print Post
	zeur snarks: "Masterkent wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 11:29am: Actually that's demonstrated on the video that you called "ad" (LOL). Mesupposes mecould've called it 'goo''. Quote: I modified the UScript code of Engine.Trigger so it indicated the horizontal and vertical overlapping of the collision cylinders of the trigger and the pawn. Negative values imply no overlapping. Ah, thanks for the exposition. Quote: The game performed ~60 ticks per second, and the number of ticks between the adjacent messages can be calculated based on the time stamps. Hold on, isn't there a way to access the tick count using UShit? Me's never had to try... --zeur."

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Smirftsch Forum Administrator Offline Posts: 7822 Location: at home Joined: Apr 30^th, 1998 Gender:	Re: Issue #44. Double call to Trigger.Touch when touching a Trigger just once Reply #6 - Jun 6^th, 2018 at 5:21am	Print Post
	checking the code it appears that both SetCollision and SetCollisionSize do untouch/touch and do this only by determining bCollideActors. Wouldn't be surprised that to be related to it somehow. Need to start logging now...

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Masterkent Developer Team Offline Posts: 1177 Location: Russia Joined: Apr 5^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Issue #44. Double call to Trigger.Touch when touching a Trigger just once Reply #7 - Jun 6^th, 2018 at 8:19am	Print Post
	Unlikely SetCollision or SetCollisionSize are related to this issue. In ConformanceTest_Touch.RunTest, there are two evaluations of A.Move(vect(0, 1, 0)): Code SetCollision(true, false, false); SetCollisionSize(40, 40); SpawnLocation = vect(-4.529744, -58.626865, 0); A = Spawn(class'Trigger',, 'ConformanceTest_Touch', SpawnLocation); A.SetCollisionSize(17, 39); A.Move(vect(0, 1, 0)); A.Move(vect(0, 1, 0)); if (!bHadValidTouch) { LogError("Touch was not called for intersecting cylinders"); LogParam("Horizontal intersection of the cylinders", -HorizontalDistanceTo(A)); } The former evaluation slightly moves the Trigger (call it A) towards the ConformanceTest_Touch actor (call it B) so that A doesn't actually reach B (their collision cylinders don't overlap yet), but this call to Move invokes Touch and UnTouch somehow. Then the second evaluation slightly moves A towards B farther (in exactly the same direction) so that the collision cylinders of A and B become overlapping and Touch is invoked again.


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Smirftsch Forum Administrator Offline Posts: 7822 Location: at home Joined: Apr 30^th, 1998 Gender:	Re: Issue #44. Double call to Trigger.Touch when touching a Trigger just once Reply #8 - Jun 6^th, 2018 at 10:22am	Print Post
	nvm that first assumption. After some logging I found that MoveActor didn't do a cylinder check before initiating BeginTouch, but UnTouch check again directly after that did it. I added it and it seems to do fine, also passing your test. It's now slightly more expensive, but I doubt its much of a problem here. Will do some playtesting later yet.

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