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Smirftsch Forum Administrator Offline Posts: 7994 Location: at home Joined: Apr 30^th, 1998 Gender:	New ALAudio updates for 224/226/227i/UnrealTournament/DeusEx/Rune Nov 27^th, 2015 at 6:33pm	Print Post
	Check the specific topics, enjoy and report bugs

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lowenz Senior Member Betatester Offline Unreal Veteran Posts: 271 Location: Berghem Haven Joined: Dec 28^th, 2007 Gender:	Re: New ALAudio updates for 224/226/227i/UnrealTournament/DeusEx/Rune Reply #1 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 4:32pm	Print Post
	Smirftsch wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 6:33pm: Check the specific topics, enjoy and report bugs Unreal, UT, Rune ini(s) have 2 "SoundVolume" entries. DX (Revision?) ini is correct but it has no "UseSpeechVolume" entry

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Smirftsch Forum Administrator Offline Posts: 7994 Location: at home Joined: Apr 30^th, 1998 Gender:	Re: New ALAudio updates for 224/226/227i/UnrealTournament/DeusEx/Rune Reply #2 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 4:57pm	Print Post
	sorry for SoundVolume, but UseSpeechVolume ain't needed in DX because in use as default feature

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lowenz Senior Member Betatester Offline Unreal Veteran Posts: 271 Location: Berghem Haven Joined: Dec 28^th, 2007 Gender:	Re: New ALAudio updates for 224/226/227i/UnrealTournament/DeusEx/Rune Reply #3 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:38pm	Print Post
	Smirftsch wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 4:57pm: sorry for SoundVolume, but UseSpeechVolume ain't needed in DX because in use as default feature Thanks! About DX/Revision: my ini, after the first launch and in-game configuration (volume levels), is automatically changed to: [ALAudio.ALAudioSubsystem] ALDevice=SpeakersCreativeSBAudigy2ZSWDMonOpenALSoft OutputRateNum=44100Hz SampleRateNum=44100Hz SoundVolume=178 SpeechVolume=178 MusicVolume=127 EffectsChannels=64 AmbientFactor=0.700000 DopplerFactor=0.010000 UseOriginalUnreal=True bSoundAttenuate=True UseDigitalMusic=True MusicInterpolation=SPLINE MusicDsp=DSP_ALL MusicPanSeparation=50 MusicStereoMix=100 MusicAmplify=1 EmulateOldReverb=True UseReverb=True OldReverbIntensity=0.200000 ProbeDevicesOnly=False UseHRTF=Autodetect UseAutoSampleRate=False OutputRate=44100Hz sampleRate=44100Hz what is the difference between "OutputRateNum" and "OutputRate" (and the same for "sampleRate") what is "UseOriginalUnreal" ? (it's not another "EmulateOldReverb", right?) The other* values for "UseHRTF" ?

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han Global Moderator Unreal Rendering Guru Developer Team Offline Oldunreal member Posts: 594 Location: Germany Joined: Dec 10^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: New ALAudio updates for 224/226/227i/UnrealTournament/DeusEx/Rune Reply #4 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 6:49pm	Print Post
	The *Num versions are outdated in the ini section. For other values for UseHRTF just check the preferences dialogue.

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rdy2bz New Member Betatester Offline Oldunreal member Posts: 41 Joined: Apr 6^th, 2011	Re: New ALAudio updates for 224/226/227i/UnrealTournament/DeusEx/Rune Reply #5 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 9:10pm	Print Post
	If anyone else needs a tutorial to set up their own HRTF function: This tutorial (Win+Linux) did it for me. The result is nothing short of fantastic! Great work! Now it's just the EAX effects that keeps me back from using openAL all the time. There isn't a chance to active the EAX effects from the EAX patch with openAL Soft on Win7, is there?

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sn260591 Full Member Offline Posts: 112 Location: Russia Joined: Aug 17^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: New ALAudio updates for 224/226/227i/UnrealTournament/DeusEx/Rune Reply #6 - Nov 29^th, 2015 at 6:22am	Print Post
	What does the option UseAutoSampleRate? I also noticed that in ut effects of an echo changed. This is as it should be?
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Smirftsch Forum Administrator Offline Posts: 7994 Location: at home Joined: Apr 30^th, 1998 Gender:	Re: New ALAudio updates for 224/226/227i/UnrealTournament/DeusEx/Rune Reply #7 - Nov 29^th, 2015 at 11:26am	Print Post
	rdy2bz wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 9:10pm: Now it's just the EAX effects that keeps me back from using openAL all the time. There isn't a chance to active the EAX effects from the EAX patch with openAL Soft on Win7, is there? I have no idea what you are asking here, there are EFX effects in it in 2 ways, one way is the emulation of the old reverb model and the other one are the environment presets usable from EFX.u - could you elaborate? sn260591 wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 6:22am: What does the option UseAutoSampleRate? it is to match tracker output rate with systems (OpenAL) output rate to improve quality. sn260591 wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 6:22am: I also noticed that in ut effects of an echo changed. This is as it should be? Could you folks give me a break playing riddles with me?

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rdy2bz New Member Betatester Offline Oldunreal member Posts: 41 Joined: Apr 6^th, 2011	Re: New ALAudio updates for 224/226/227i/UnrealTournament/DeusEx/Rune Reply #8 - Nov 29^th, 2015 at 3:56pm	Print Post
	I'll try to explain step by step: I have a Creative X-Fi sound card, so I figured I could try to get EAX + UT99 working. - I installed Creative openAL in windows\system32 - I installed ALchemy and added UT - I installed the EAX patch, so I have the patched galaxy.dll under system, as well as the eaxman.dll and all those .eal-files for standard maps. This gives me EAX, see the following two videos: EAX video 1 EAX video 2 So far so good. On the other hand I love the HRTF function of openAL Soft, so I try to get this running, too. - I installed the most recent ALAudio 2.2 in UT\System - I created my own profile according to the tutorial I posted earlier and set up openAL Soft to use the created .mhr This gives me positional sound, see the following two videos: openAL HRTF video 1 openAL HRTF video 2 What I finally want is to use openAL Soft so I can have the HRTF function. But at the same time I want to have the old EAX effects. Is there a way to enable EAX? I understand that EFX should be able to do the same, but the thing is I don't find a config to enable it.

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lowenz Senior Member Betatester Offline Unreal Veteran Posts: 271 Location: Berghem Haven Joined: Dec 28^th, 2007 Gender:	Re: New ALAudio updates for 224/226/227i/UnrealTournament/DeusEx/Rune Reply #9 - Nov 29^th, 2015 at 4:40pm	Print Post
	Any chance to see the updated OpenAL support for: Deep Space Nine: The Fallen Undying Wheel of Time Rune CLASSIC (steam release default OpenAL implementation is terrible ) ?

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han Global Moderator Unreal Rendering Guru Developer Team Offline Oldunreal member Posts: 594 Location: Germany Joined: Dec 10^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: New ALAudio updates for 224/226/227i/UnrealTournament/DeusEx/Rune Reply #10 - Nov 29^th, 2015 at 5:09pm	Print Post
	lowenz wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 4:40pm: Any chance to see the updated OpenAL support for: Deep Space Nine: The Fallen Undying Wheel of Time Rune CLASSIC (steam release default OpenAL implementation is terrible ) ? For Rune Classic, it's likely to happen soon. For DS9/Undying/WoT there is a good chance that it will happen during the next 1-2 years, as you might be aware of that I'm doing headers for certain UE1 games. But the next game is likely Klingon Honor Guard.

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Smirftsch Forum Administrator Offline Posts: 7994 Location: at home Joined: Apr 30^th, 1998 Gender:	Re: New ALAudio updates for 224/226/227i/UnrealTournament/DeusEx/Rune Reply #11 - Nov 29^th, 2015 at 6:05pm	Print Post
	rdy2bz wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 3:56pm: I'll try to explain step by step: I have a Creative X-Fi sound card, so I figured I could try to get EAX + UT99 working. - I installed Creative openAL in windows\system32 - I installed ALchemy and added UT - I installed the EAX patch, so I have the patched galaxy.dll under system, as well as the eaxman.dll and all those .eal-files for standard maps. This gives me EAX, see the following two videos: EAX video 1 EAX video 2 So far so good. On the other hand I love the HRTF function of openAL Soft, so I try to get this running, too. - I installed the most recent ALAudio 2.2 in UT\System - I created my own profile according to the tutorial I posted earlier and set up openAL Soft to use the created .mhr This gives me positional sound, see the following two videos: openAL HRTF video 1 openAL HRTF video 2 What I finally want is to use openAL Soft so I can have the HRTF function. But at the same time I want to have the old EAX effects. Is there a way to enable EAX? I understand that EFX should be able to do the same, but the thing is I don't find a config to enable it. Its been a while I have been using these, but iirc these EAX effects are in use with specially modified levels to initialize it. With the OpenAL patch here you can indeed do the same, as it offers the complete environment set which EAX offered. The "only" thing needed is to modify the maps. Well "only" I know this is in theory more easy, especially because you would lose online compatibility with these maps then. So there is no straight way to just "enable" these, the implementation is plain different.

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han Global Moderator Unreal Rendering Guru Developer Team Offline Oldunreal member Posts: 594 Location: Germany Joined: Dec 10^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: New ALAudio updates for 224/226/227i/UnrealTournament/DeusEx/Rune Reply #12 - Nov 29^th, 2015 at 7:11pm	Print Post
	Might be worth to mention that creative cards OpenAL implementation seems to offer/offered an extension implementing exactly the old EAX functionality. However OpenALSoft implements HRTF support and [add long list of other benefits here] so using that is not really an option either.

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andrey New Member Offline Oldunreal member Posts: 6 Joined: Sep 10^th, 2016	Re: New ALAudio updates for 224/226/227i/UnrealTournament/DeusEx/Rune Reply #13 - Sep 10^th, 2016 at 7:25pm	Print Post
	hello, im have a problem with start deus ex revision with open al. Quote: Log: ALAudio.ALAudioSubsystem.ALDevices Log: ALAudio: ALDEVICES found 0:OpenALSoftonCreativeSBXFi Log: ALAudio: ALDEVICES found 1:OpenALSoftonSPDIFOutCreativeSBXFi Log: Loading: Package ALAudio Warning: Failed to load 'ALAudio': Can't find Enum in file 'Enum Engine.ZoneInfo.EAmbients' Warning: Failed to load 'Class ALAudio.ALAudioSubsystem': Can't find Enum in file 'Enum Engine.ZoneInfo.EAmbients' Warning: Can't find Enum in file 'Enum Engine.ZoneInfo.EAmbients' openal version 247/ galaxy is work fine please help run on win10 x64 10.586


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Zeromus75 New Member Offline Oldunreal member Posts: 2 Joined: Aug 20^th, 2017	Re: New ALAudio updates for 224/226/227i/UnrealTournament/DeusEx/Rune Reply #14 - Oct 26^th, 2019 at 3:22pm	Print Post
	Can you guys PLEASE look into these problems mentioned here for Rune/Rune Classic? https://www.oldunreal.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1420981956/29#29


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