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Oldunreal Forums › Independent › Linux-Board › very bad reverb fmod

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Skywolf Betatester Offline Just placeholding... Posts: 832 Joined: Aug 2^nd, 2009	very bad reverb fmod Dec 18^th, 2012 at 6:45pm	Print Post
	fmod seems to have some problems on my ubuntu laptop with reverb. it sounds like every sound gets played on top of each other making a very loud and annoying noise. is there something in the unreallinux.ini file i need to change? or is this a bug and do i have to disable reverb entirely?

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GreatEmerald Oldunreal MasterPoster Offline The Great Emerald Posts: 5361 Location: Vilnius, Lithuania Joined: May 21^st, 2007 Gender:	Re: very bad reverb fmod Reply #1 - Dec 18^th, 2012 at 9:26pm	Print Post
	Does it happen with OpenAL? What FMOD version are you using (the one in the convenience libs or distro-provided)?

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Smirftsch Forum Administrator Offline Posts: 7989 Location: at home Joined: Apr 30^th, 1998 Gender:	Re: very bad reverb fmod Reply #2 - Dec 19^th, 2012 at 7:01am	Print Post
	There are a couple of things you can try. Sound on Laptops seems to be always a bit tricky. Most promising is probably to use ProbeDevicesOnly and see what output devices are usable for your chosen DefaultDevice. Also you can try with different DefaultDevices, although ALSA should be best nowadays it is possible that OSS produces still better results on your system. Yet you can try to use OpenAL or SWFmod too, both are having different ways for sound output and maybe don't suffer this problem as well.

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Skywolf Betatester Offline Just placeholding... Posts: 832 Joined: Aug 2^nd, 2009	Re: very bad reverb fmod Reply #3 - Dec 19^th, 2012 at 8:11am	Print Post
	the problem with open al and swfmod is that unreal can't start with it. it always says that it could't load some package even when everything is installed. i am using the convenience libs in case that matters. i installed everything like i did before http://www.oldunreal.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1349366793

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Smirftsch Forum Administrator Offline Posts: 7989 Location: at home Joined: Apr 30^th, 1998 Gender:	Re: very bad reverb fmod Reply #4 - Dec 19^th, 2012 at 9:37am	Print Post
	No luck with the ProbeDevices or OSS? But I see... Well, from my experiences it may cause trouble if your are using some biarch system, in that case it might be that your system lacks some 32bit libs, which would explain why OpenAL and SWFMod is not working. In case your system provides them, check for 32bpp libs version of openal-soft( libopenal.so.1.12.854 or maybe newer) for OpenAL and FModEx(44006 I think it was, or maybe newer) for SWFMod.

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iLikeTheUDK Senior Member Offline I knew that Netanyahu would realize that too... Posts: 433 Location: Tel Mond, Israel Joined: Mar 21^st, 2011 Gender:	Re: very bad reverb fmod Reply #5 - Dec 19^th, 2012 at 2:04pm	Print Post
	Do you think you can get OpenAL to support at least EAX3 features, if not those from later versions of EAX AHD? It feels primitive sticking to features of the old version from almost 15 years ago.


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Smirftsch Forum Administrator Offline Posts: 7989 Location: at home Joined: Apr 30^th, 1998 Gender:	Re: very bad reverb fmod Reply #6 - Dec 19^th, 2012 at 4:18pm	Print Post
	OpenAL actually uses EFX not EAX, but in short: no. Unfortunately CreativeLabs is not willing to give out these things for free (despite the fact that it wouldn't work in Linux, which EFX does).

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iLikeTheUDK Senior Member Offline I knew that Netanyahu would realize that too... Posts: 433 Location: Tel Mond, Israel Joined: Mar 21^st, 2011 Gender:	Re: very bad reverb fmod Reply #7 - Dec 19^th, 2012 at 7:25pm	Print Post
	But does EFX have features of EAX versions beyond 2?


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GreatEmerald Oldunreal MasterPoster Offline The Great Emerald Posts: 5361 Location: Vilnius, Lithuania Joined: May 21^st, 2007 Gender:	Re: very bad reverb fmod Reply #8 - Dec 19^th, 2012 at 9:42pm	Print Post
	It does sound like it could be an issue with missing libraries. What package does it say that it can't load, exactly? EFX supports all EAX features as fas as I know, but only the proprietary version and not the open-source one (despite the name "OpenAL").

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Skywolf Betatester Offline Just placeholding... Posts: 832 Joined: Aug 2^nd, 2009	Re: very bad reverb fmod Reply #9 - Dec 20^th, 2012 at 9:32am	Print Post
	lol, the oldunreal habit to go offtopic strikes again XD just installed windows xp on the laptop and it seems that this problem also occurs then. so its just the hardware in my laptop. i still prefer ubuntu seeing the age of this laptop (unreal also runs better in ubuntu) so it would be nice if i could get it working. the logs says that unreal failed to load the package for ALAudio.ALAudioSubsystem or SwFMOD.SwFMOD (depends on which i try).

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Smirftsch Forum Administrator Offline Posts: 7989 Location: at home Joined: Apr 30^th, 1998 Gender:	Re: very bad reverb fmod Reply #10 - Dec 20^th, 2012 at 5:12pm	Print Post
	lol, yeah Well that log only means that either the lib or one of its dependencies can't be loaded. So something is definitely missing there.

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omer666 New Member Offline Oldunreal member Posts: 18 Location: Caen, Lower Normandy, France Joined: Dec 7^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: very bad reverb fmod Reply #11 - Dec 21^st, 2012 at 11:15pm	Print Post
	Just a quick reply to let you know that I have problems with fmod audio drivers and reverb too. OpenAL works flawlessly, though.


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Skywolf Betatester Offline Just placeholding... Posts: 832 Joined: Aug 2^nd, 2009	Re: very bad reverb fmod Reply #12 - Dec 22^nd, 2012 at 4:28pm	Print Post
	hmm, it seems that it also occurs on my desktop pc. not sure but as far as i remember did it work fine on 227H. going to try it out. EDIT: confirmed, fmod didn't have this problem in 227H. what i did was patching 227I by running the 227H patch. EDIT2: tried the "ProbeDeviceOnly" option which didn't solve the issue. changing the FMODOutputs to something else didn't help either. i couldt find the ALSA thing on my Computer (which is running Windows 7) but i will try it on my Ubuntu laptop.

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Smirftsch Forum Administrator Offline Posts: 7989 Location: at home Joined: Apr 30^th, 1998 Gender:	Re: very bad reverb fmod Reply #13 - Dec 22^nd, 2012 at 4:55pm	Print Post
	windows doesn't have ALSA you could try different settings for BufferSize maybe. That you have the same problems in Win and Lin is indeed a bit strange, the output system is as different as it can be. But maybe its related to some fixes in functionality for reverb, it didn't always work as wanted, so maybe it didn't happen on your system because of this before. If nothing helps only the option to disable reverb remains- but then again I am wondering if this happens in OpenAL in Windows too on your laptop?

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Skywolf Betatester Offline Just placeholding... Posts: 832 Joined: Aug 2^nd, 2009	Re: very bad reverb fmod Reply #14 - Dec 22^nd, 2012 at 5:56pm	Print Post
	OpenAL works fine on the laptop when running Windows XP. edit: using OSS doesn't help.
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