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Hot Topic (More than 10 Replies) Insane idea : Unreal 1 Splitscreen?? (Read 3754 times)
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Insane idea : Unreal 1 Splitscreen??
Feb 27th, 2012 at 1:34pm
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I know that you can go to lan games but my friend really likes unreal but i don't have a really good internet connection as it lags horrificly :S so he got the rather blatant idea of unreal or UT with splitscreen. So... any possibilities..?
  

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Re: Insane idea : Unreal 1 Splitscreen??
Reply #1 - Feb 27th, 2012 at 5:15pm
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I don't think that's possible, since you need mouse input for it after all, and it's not a turn-based game. And from what I've seen so far, you can't just connect two mice to one PC and have two pointers.

So your best bet would still be a LAN game.
  
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Re: Insane idea : Unreal 1 Splitscreen??
Reply #2 - Feb 27th, 2012 at 6:21pm
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Hmmm.. Great Emerald has a good point.
However, wouldn't it be possible to make gamepad support for this "splitscreen" gametype making the gamepad automatically the second player or something of that kind?
  
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Re: Insane idea : Unreal 1 Splitscreen??
Reply #3 - Feb 27th, 2012 at 8:28pm
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I'd assume that it would theoretically be possible. But not without changing a lot of input code (since there is no way to bind keys for different players and so on).
  
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Re: Insane idea : Unreal 1 Splitscreen??
Reply #4 - Feb 27th, 2012 at 11:27pm
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There must be a way, but it'd require some real coding AND readiness to use... a gamepad. Most systems dislike pressing 3 keys at once so 2 players at one keyboard -- shitstorm for Windoze. I also haven't seen any option to use a second gamepad (I guess it would have to be hardcoded into Unreal, and I can't see that happening anytime soon) so it would make chances a bit uneven -- one person using mouse & kb, the other a gamepad... Let's face it, the gamepad-wielding person would be at a disadvantage from the get-go.
  
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Re: Insane idea : Unreal 1 Splitscreen??
Reply #5 - Feb 28th, 2012 at 1:06pm
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True that, but let's say you wouldn't play DM but coop. Imagine a friend of you has no Unreal and has issues to get a copy of it, or he has a terrible connection or (I know, sounds unlikely these days) has no internet (I had a week without internet once due to a waterpipe that exploded down the street and broke up the asphalt and also cut the cable) but would love to play it coop with you, you would connect a gamepad and say "Why not?".
Would be a neat thing, not so good for DM or real CTF, but still a neat thing for coop.
Coop is a gametype, couldn't this result be achieved through modding that gametype?
There would be a problem with the key settings for the second player though because there is a bunch of gamepads for PC - keyboards on the other hand are all the same (to 90% at least). Otherwise, if people could agree on one certain required gamepad (e.g. Xbox360 gamepad), the keys could be set through the gametype. Changing them would not be possible then.
I'm not a coder and don't know if this would even work or if this would be even possible, however, I would at least want to hear someone's opinion on this. Smiley
  
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Re: Insane idea : Unreal 1 Splitscreen??
Reply #6 - Feb 28th, 2012 at 2:07pm
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make 2 unreal folders, set one of em to use gamepad. open both in windowed mode and (with windows) r-click taskbar: Stack windows, or whatever it's called, I have the dutch version. One starts a LAN, the other one joins it, easy enuf?
  
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Re: Insane idea : Unreal 1 Splitscreen??
Reply #7 - Feb 28th, 2012 at 2:12pm
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Connect 2 mice, 2 keyboards, 2 monitors. Run 2 xsessions (you need linux installed), enjoy!
Actually, I don't know will this work or not.
  
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Re: Insane idea : Unreal 1 Splitscreen??
Reply #8 - Feb 28th, 2012 at 3:14pm
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Bleeder91[NL] wrote on Feb 28th, 2012 at 2:07pm:
make 2 unreal folders, set one of em to use gamepad. open both in windowed mode and (with windows) r-click taskbar: Stack windows, or whatever it's called, I have the dutch version. One starts a LAN, the other one joins it, easy enuf?


No, unfortunately you can only have one window active at a time. The other one won't receive any input.

Marzanna wrote on Feb 28th, 2012 at 2:12pm:
Connect 2 mice, 2 keyboards, 2 monitors. Run 2 xsessions (you need linux installed), enjoy!
Actually, I don't know will this work or not.


Hmm, that's an interesting suggestion. But I don't think you can isolate input devices to certain X servers... Unless you can disable them somehow on one and not the other... Though in that case, an easier approach would be to add a bit more money and go for a fully-fledged thin client (include a processor, that is), that would even work on Windows as well Smiley
  
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Re: Insane idea : Unreal 1 Splitscreen??
Reply #9 - Feb 28th, 2012 at 3:42pm
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Oh yeah, didn't think about that.. better have a 3rd person alt-tabbing at light speed then.
  
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Re: Insane idea : Unreal 1 Splitscreen??
Reply #10 - Feb 28th, 2012 at 5:45pm
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Bleeder91[NL] wrote on Feb 28th, 2012 at 3:42pm:
Oh yeah, didn't think about that.. better have a 3rd person alt-tabbing at light speed then.

And forbid the players from holding down any buttons, say, the run forward button Tongue
  
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Re: Insane idea : Unreal 1 Splitscreen??
Reply #11 - Feb 29th, 2012 at 10:44am
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GreatEmerald wrote on Feb 28th, 2012 at 3:14pm:
Hmm, that's an interesting suggestion. But I don't think you can isolate input devices to certain X servers... Unless you can disable them somehow on one and not the other... Though in that case, an easier approach would be to add a bit more money and go for a fully-fledged thin client (include a processor, that is), that would even work on Windows as well Smiley

Should work with properly configured xorg.conf
I haven't tried that, because I don't have usb keypoard.
  
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Re: Insane idea : Unreal 1 Splitscreen??
Reply #12 - Feb 29th, 2012 at 3:37pm
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That would be great if splitscreen could be implemented, especially if a similar idea could work for Unreal 2.
  
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Reply #13 - Mar 3rd, 2012 at 9:26pm
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I think that this is doable in uscript, but I don't see it as being a practical use of time to make.

You could drawportal twice on the canvas from the perspective of each player and somehow have a couple playerpawns that listen for input on different keys.

Though, I'm probably missing something big here.. (I don't mess with pawns much)
  
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