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Lightning_Hunter Senior Member Betatester Offline Posts: 275 Location: somewhere on Earth Joined: Mar 4^th, 2003 Gender:	Re: ahaigh's S3TC download page Reply #15 - Feb 22^nd, 2015 at 10:30pm	Print Post
	Is there a UT version of Casey's file above? I was just thinking the other day how low-quality the barrels and crates look compared to the S3TC textures, and I have to admit that they look incredible in the new ExtremeEnd UnrealShare.u file above. Pretty please, can someone tell me how to use them in UT?

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[]KAOS[]Casey Developer Team Betatester Offline nedm Posts: 3186 Joined: Aug 7^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: ahaigh's S3TC download page Reply #16 - Feb 23^rd, 2015 at 12:09am	Print Post
	The texture merger I made, for some reason, crashes when I try to use it in UT. IT works fine in unrealgold/227i, but the critical function (I think an editor import factory) crashes. I haven't looked at it in years though...


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Lightning_Hunter Senior Member Betatester Offline Posts: 275 Location: somewhere on Earth Joined: Mar 4^th, 2003 Gender:	Re: ahaigh's S3TC download page Reply #17 - Feb 23^rd, 2015 at 12:38am	Print Post
	The only way I know of adding these textures to UT is to convert the .dds files in photoshop to .bmp files, then use a program called "bright" to convert that to 256 color pcx files. I can then import them in to UED. They lose a little bit of quality during the conversion process, however... If there is a better way, I would like to know. DDS files cannot be used by UT, right?

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スマイル・ドラゴン Betatester Offline 『ｓｍｉｌｅ。。。』 Posts: 1236 Location: Independence, KS Joined: Feb 10^th, 2008 Gender:	Re: ahaigh's S3TC download page Reply #18 - Feb 23^rd, 2015 at 12:58am	Print Post
	You can import 24-bpp BMP into Unreal and the import generator creates a DXT-1 texture object... DXT-1 is S3TC. Only use Bright if you want to stay true to Unreal's limits and don't want to crash people running Glide renderer.

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Lightning_Hunter Senior Member Betatester Offline Posts: 275 Location: somewhere on Earth Joined: Mar 4^th, 2003 Gender:	Re: ahaigh's S3TC download page Reply #19 - Feb 23^rd, 2015 at 5:56am	Print Post
	スマイル・ドラゴン wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2015 at 12:58am: You can import 24-bpp BMP into Unreal and the import generator creates a DXT-1 texture object... DXT-1 is S3TC. Only use Bright if you want to stay true to Unreal's limits and don't want to crash people running Glide renderer. What is the import generator?

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スマイル・ドラゴン Betatester Offline 『ｓｍｉｌｅ。。。』 Posts: 1236 Location: Independence, KS Joined: Feb 10^th, 2008 Gender:	Re: ahaigh's S3TC download page Reply #20 - Feb 24^th, 2015 at 3:37am	Print Post
	Um, it's a native object that handles bitmap file conversion to Unreal's internal texture class? I can't really tell you exactly what it "is", I was just saying that when it's invoked with a 24-bit BMP file as the import target, it automatically creates a DXT-1 (S3TC) format Texture object for you to use.

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Lightning_Hunter Senior Member Betatester Offline Posts: 275 Location: somewhere on Earth Joined: Mar 4^th, 2003 Gender:	Re: ahaigh's S3TC download page Reply #21 - Feb 24^th, 2015 at 5:13am	Print Post
	スマイル・ドラゴン wrote on Feb 24^th, 2015 at 3:37am: Um, it's a native object that handles bitmap file conversion to Unreal's internal texture class? I can't really tell you exactly what it "is", I was just saying that when it's invoked with a 24-bit BMP file as the import target, it automatically creates a DXT-1 (S3TC) format Texture object for you to use. I guess I phrased my question wrong. I thought you were implying that there was some external program that imports textures (an import generator), but I misread your post. I guess my real question is how I import 24-bit bmp files in to Unreal, as you said I could do. I am familiar with UED2.0, and I know it cannot import BMP files at all (UnrealED 1 can). Besides, it only works with 256 colors. I guess what I need is a tutorial or something along those lines that tells me how to get these .dds files in to UnrealShare.u. I can use photoshop to convert the .dds files to 24-bit bmp, but then what? Do I use UCC?

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スマイル・ドラゴン Betatester Offline 『ｓｍｉｌｅ。。。』 Posts: 1236 Location: Independence, KS Joined: Feb 10^th, 2008 Gender:	Re: ahaigh's S3TC download page Reply #22 - Feb 24^th, 2015 at 5:17am	Print Post
	Unreal does not operate on 256 colours alone. You need to specify "all types" or manually type in the import command into the unreal log window in the editor. I've imported 24-bit BMP's into Unreal all the time, and Unreal warns that it created a DXT1, the warning is there because not all graphics cards at the time even knew what that format even is internally. (This obviously isn't a problem today) I've never ran into any issues importing .BMP into Unreal, you can even export .BMP if you type the export filename as .bmp instead of .pcx.

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Lightning_Hunter Senior Member Betatester Offline Posts: 275 Location: somewhere on Earth Joined: Mar 4^th, 2003 Gender:	Re: ahaigh's S3TC download page Reply #23 - Feb 24^th, 2015 at 5:34am	Print Post
	So how do I import them? What is the command in Unreal? That's what I'm asking here.

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スマイル・ドラゴン Betatester Offline 『ｓｍｉｌｅ。。。』 Posts: 1236 Location: Independence, KS Joined: Feb 10^th, 2008 Gender:	Re: ahaigh's S3TC download page Reply #24 - Feb 24^th, 2015 at 6:04am	Print Post
	I don't remember it off hand, and none of my Unreal related stuff is on this system and currently stuck on drives I can't mount externally yet. If you import a texture the command will show up in the log. (It should, but I'm speaking from UnrealED 1.0 experience) Sorry for confusing you that much, but I still think in the import dialog there should be a option to view "All files" not just "PCX" and you should beable at that point to import a .BMP (It needs to be 24-bit, with no colourspace information)

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Lightning_Hunter Senior Member Betatester Offline Posts: 275 Location: somewhere on Earth Joined: Mar 4^th, 2003 Gender:	Re: ahaigh's S3TC download page Reply #25 - Feb 24^th, 2015 at 6:09pm	Print Post
	Well, I remembered that UnrealED2 can import bmp files after all. You just have to have it display "all files" (or rename the .bmp to .pcx to trick the editor). It also successfully imports 24-bit bmp files, which I never knew it could do. However, I'm having trouble with the masked properties. Whenever I import Jtree51 for example, the tree in the game has the black masking bug (you can see the black parts of the texture). I tried importing the texture with "masked" both on and off, but neither worked. Casey, how did you import these textures before?

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スマイル・ドラゴン Betatester Offline 『ｓｍｉｌｅ。。。』 Posts: 1236 Location: Independence, KS Joined: Feb 10^th, 2008 Gender:	Re: ahaigh's S3TC download page Reply #26 - Feb 24^th, 2015 at 9:01pm	Print Post
	DXT1 can't mask properly. Though I've had strange instances of it masking only RGB 000 in the image, I think that may be a hack of UTGLR in the works though. The DXT1 format traditionally speaking only supports a 1-bit alpha mask. But I don't know how to save a file with 1-bit alpha.

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[]KAOS[]Casey Developer Team Betatester Offline nedm Posts: 3186 Joined: Aug 7^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: ahaigh's S3TC download page Reply #27 - Feb 26^th, 2015 at 8:07am	Print Post
	I imported them using a custom C++ inline replacement tool that doesn't modify import/export table & guid It's not something released, and as mentioned, last I remember UT crashes using the method that works for u1


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sn260591 Full Member Offline Posts: 111 Location: Russia Joined: Aug 17^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: ahaigh's S3TC download page Reply #28 - Feb 27^th, 2015 at 7:15am	Print Post
	For import of dds textures to unreal and ut99 it is possible to use the ut2004 editor. In addition, for the ut99 editor need set WindowedRenderDevice=D3D9Drv.D3D9RenderDevice (in UnrealTournament.ini) and Device=D3D9Drv.D3D9RenderDevice (in UnrealEd.ini), otherwise it will crash when you open the package.

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Lightning_Hunter Senior Member Betatester Offline Posts: 275 Location: somewhere on Earth Joined: Mar 4^th, 2003 Gender:	Re: ahaigh's S3TC download page Reply #29 - Mar 2^nd, 2015 at 4:14am	Print Post
	Does the 227 patch come with a modified UnrealShare.u? I ask this, because if I am using the modified UnrealShare.u that has high-res skins, it will be outdated when there is a new release of 227...

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