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I know that you can go to lan games but my friend really likes unreal but i don't have a really good internet connection as it lags horrificly :S so he got the rather blatant idea of unreal or UT with splitscreen. So... any possibilities..?

I don't think that's possible, since you need mouse input for it after all, and it's not a turn-based game. And from what I've seen so far, you can't just connect two mice to one PC and have two pointers.

So your best bet would still be a LAN game.

Hmmm.. Great Emerald has a good point.
However, wouldn't it be possible to make gamepad support for this "splitscreen" gametype making the gamepad automatically the second player or something of that kind?

I'd assume that it would theoretically be possible. But not without changing a lot of input code (since there is no way to bind keys for different players and so on).

There must be a way, but it'd require some real coding AND readiness to use... a gamepad. Most systems dislike pressing 3 keys at once so 2 players at one keyboard -- shitstorm for Windoze. I also haven't seen any option to use a second gamepad (I guess it would have to be hardcoded into Unreal, and I can't see that happening anytime soon) so it would make chances a bit uneven -- one person using mouse & kb, the other a gamepad... Let's face it, the gamepad-wielding person would be at a disadvantage from the get-go.

True that, but let's say you wouldn't play DM but coop. Imagine a friend of you has no Unreal and has issues to get a copy of it, or he has a terrible connection or (I know, sounds unlikely these days) has no internet (I had a week without internet once due to a waterpipe that exploded down the street and broke up the asphalt and also cut the cable) but would love to play it coop with you, you would connect a gamepad and say "Why not?".
Would be a neat thing, not so good for DM or real CTF, but still a neat thing for coop.
Coop is a gametype, couldn't this result be achieved through modding that gametype?
There would be a problem with the key settings for the second player though because there is a bunch of gamepads for PC - keyboards on the other hand are all the same (to 90% at least). Otherwise, if people could agree on one certain required gamepad (e.g. Xbox360 gamepad), the keys could be set through the gametype. Changing them would not be possible then.
I'm not a coder and don't know if this would even work or if this would be even possible, however, I would at least want to hear someone's opinion on this.

make 2 unreal folders, set one of em to use gamepad. open both in windowed mode and (with windows) r-click taskbar: Stack windows, or whatever it's called, I have the dutch version. One starts a LAN, the other one joins it, easy enuf?

Connect 2 mice, 2 keyboards, 2 monitors. Run 2 xsessions (you need linux installed), enjoy!
Actually, I don't know will this work or not.

make 2 unreal folders, set one of em to use gamepad. open both in windowed mode and (with windows) r-click taskbar: Stack windows, or whatever it's called, I have the dutch version. One starts a LAN, the other one joins it, easy enuf?

No, unfortunately you can only have one window active at a time. The other one won't receive any input.

Connect 2 mice, 2 keyboards, 2 monitors. Run 2 xsessions (you need linux installed), enjoy!
Actually, I don't know will this work or not.

Hmm, that's an interesting suggestion. But I don't think you can isolate input devices to certain X servers... Unless you can disable them somehow on one and not the other... Though in that case, an easier approach would be to add a bit more money and go for a fully-fledged thin client (include a processor, that is), that would even work on Windows as well

Oh yeah, didn't think about that.. better have a 3rd person alt-tabbing at light speed then.

Oh yeah, didn't think about that.. better have a 3rd person alt-tabbing at light speed then.

And forbid the players from holding down any buttons, say, the run forward button

Hmm, that's an interesting suggestion. But I don't think you can isolate input devices to certain X servers... Unless you can disable them somehow on one and not the other... Though in that case, an easier approach would be to add a bit more money and go for a fully-fledged thin client (include a processor, that is), that would even work on Windows as well

Should work with properly configured xorg.conf
I haven't tried that, because I don't have usb keypoard.

That would be great if splitscreen could be implemented, especially if a similar idea could work for Unreal 2.

I think that this is doable in uscript, but I don't see it as being a practical use of time to make.

You could drawportal twice on the canvas from the perspective of each player and somehow have a couple playerpawns that listen for input on different keys.

Though, I'm probably missing something big here.. (I don't mess with pawns much)