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Trust us Leo, I'm sure that this person with the betas has already investigated all the legal issues and would not have posted here at all if he knew he would not have permission.

Wow where did Zeurkous come from? Haven't seen him in years.

And Leo...don't you dare call me "boy".

I'm probably twice your age.

As I said before, you know nothing about me, so you should have no reason to doubt me. I have been working with computers at the age of 3...

and my father has been building them from scratch most of his life.

This is why I even have a 5 1/2 " floppy disc drive in the first place.

The normal 3 1/2 " Floppy's that the other alhpas are on,

I believe "the guy" has drives for those himself. But the 5 1/2 " ones are so incredibly rare

227 requires checks to make sure your install of unreal is even valid, otherwise you're getting essentially a free copy of the engine.

Also, a simple check to make sure you actually own Unreal vs UT or U2 is extremely easy.

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ffs. can someone remove all this fucking slander? god damn.

Someone's out there busting their balls to give us some really cool stuff and you two are arguing?

And it's extremely possible one of you just ruined it altogether?

Be quiet. PLEASE.

Well, let's just wait for a reply from DE, shall we?
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Not an md5 or a directory check, something much simpler thats only different between UT and u1, which is slightly more complex than checking 220 vs 224+.

Also, the unreal engine is extremely hard to replicate. Otherwise there would be a clear cut competitor that runs just as well.

And there isnt a shareware version of unreal that I know of, though it was clearly planned.

the patches all ship with an editor, and just /system and a few texture files is all you need to start making a game

And you twice as older than me? You are 17, I am like three years older.

And you twice as older than me? You are 17, I am like three years older.

LOL! Really now? I guess you don't act your age then :P

And yeah Casey convinced me over MSN

that it'd probably be best to send him the drive and cables for it, so I'll probably be doing that once he moves to his new house sometime in July.

And yeah my dad actually does all the soldering work on chips and other hardware and manually puts them together, not just buying the parts and slapping them together. I'd refer to him first too...which I usually do anyway since I'm currently spending my summer at his house here ::)

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And yes I did tell shivaxi that doing that crap over MSN is a bad idea, as far as I know the only good methods for securely communicating is skype and a few proxies and SSL.

Supposedly the government was trying to pay a hacker to decrypt skype file transfers and voice.

btw, that "simple check" is exactly what the regular unreal installer does, but I don't see anyone complaining about it. there STILL needs to be a check, for legalities sake. No matter how simple, there has to be one.

So this check would be easy to implement into an installer for the beta, providing the required code is in the old engine versions?

the check is in the actual installer if I interpereted smirf correctly, but any compiled installer could perform the same check, possibly even a linux script but I don't know enough about linux scripts to tell you.

I also didn't know IRC supported SSL, but any publicly available server is likely prone to risk, so hosting one locally would likely be a good idea.

More like, can I google it and find a public server kind of thing. gamesurge or efnet etc.

one hosted by you is going to be far more secretive than either of those

GreatEmerald you dont post in forums about betas till you have them in hand and ready to be downloaded.

i do zeurkous because a cease and desist after i've downloaded it doesnt affect me having it ;)

when did I ever say there wasn't one? I said that I know of, and it was obviously planned. I've just never seen one, never heard of one, only speculated of one. Upload the thing so we can see it then, it'd be cool.

And yes I did tell shivaxi that doing that crap over MSN is a bad idea, as far as I know the only good methods for securely communicating is skype and a few proxies and SSL. Supposedly the government was trying to pay a hacker to decrypt skype file transfers and voice.

btw, that "simple check" is exactly what the regular unreal installer does, but I don't see anyone complaining about it. there STILL needs to be a check, for legalities sake. No matter how simple, there has to be one.