New gametype idea - any UScript coders interested?

[DaveW]

That's awesome. The issue I'm having is getting it in any state to export though

Milkshape3d deletes the skeletal mesh information on export so it does import to Unreal

[mentalhunter]

Use Umodel for exporting models, only thing you might have to redo is re-asign the materials/textures to their groups

[Pyro]

That's awesome. The issue I'm having is getting it in any state to export though

Milkshape3d deletes the skeletal mesh information on export so it does import to Unreal

[[]KAOS[]Casey]

Have you tried exporting straight to PSA/PSK then testing it in game? maybe milkshape doesn't like the animation but unreal does

[DaveW]

[ch961]ÿ[ch638]ø[ch7753]ïø[ch965][ch7777], what version of Max do you have? I have the animations in Max but I have no idea how to export them with ActorX, it's just throwing errors at me.

[[]KAOS[]Casey]

it appears that the cement road block and that other orange ..thing do not look like they are supposed to in game. I do not know why, and unrfx could not fix them. The cement block appears to be missing 2 polys on the top, there's a hole.

It's almost like they're inverted or something, but I really don't know.

[[]KAOS[]Casey]

screenshots :

http://www.klankaos.com/Shot0037.jpg
http://www.klankaos.com/Shot0041.jpg
http://www.klankaos.com/Shot0040.jpg
http://www.klankaos.com/Shot0039.jpg
http://www.klankaos.com/Shot0038.jpg

only difference from your original UCs is I put MLOD=0 {no LOD support} on, which should not cause this.

[Pyro]

[ch961]ÿ[ch638]ø[ch7753]ïø[ch965][ch7777], what version of Max do you have? I have the animations in Max but I have no idea how to export them with ActorX, it's just throwing errors at me.

2009. i could show you how to do it in a video? youll have to wait a bit, since i almost finished a G3, and ill record the export.

[DaveW]

only difference from your original UCs is I put MLOD=0 {no LOD support} on, which should not cause this.

The UC was generated automatically by Milkshape 3d. If we're going to use 227, shall I export them as PSK from Max instead? The smoothing won't be awful on them, then.



A video also sounds good, that'd be brilliant

[.:..:]

MilkShape does not export predefined animations that you do in 3Ds Max, however you can still specify them on UC files import:

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#EXEC ANIM  SEQUENCE ANIM=AssaultAnims SEQ=AltFire STARTFRAME=117 NUMFRAMES=16 RATE=20 COMPRESS=1,00
#EXEC ANIM  SEQUENCE ANIM=AssaultAnims SEQ=Down STARTFRAME=132 NUMFRAMES=15 RATE=28 COMPRESS=1,00
#exec ANIM DIGEST ANIM=AssaultAnims

[[]KAOS[]Casey]

Might as well use 227, could be good promotional material if I code it well enough and get the balance right

[DaveW]

And because they'll look crap without proper smoothing groups

I'll wait on [ch961]ÿ[ch638]ø[ch7753]ïø[ch965][ch7777] to finish up this G3 so he can show me how to export - I've always been hopeless at it. Meanwhile, I'll work on getting the other weapons together.

[[]KAOS[]Casey]

Any progress on either guys?

[Pyro]

yea im going to grab some food then imma record the export.
DaveW, do you want voice explanation with it ?

EDIT: just noticed my mic is broke. ill add text boxes. fixed it.

ok, so now it has voice, beware, my english sucks ass and so does the quality of the sound.

[Pyro]

[media]http://home.kpn.nl/guusenjenny/export.wmv[/media]
right mouse -> zoom in / out -> full screen


(http://home.kpn.nl/guusenjenny/export.wmv)

my pronunciation sucks. AU-TO-MA-TI-CA-LY lol. I know.

[DaveW]

Cool, I'll try follow what you did and have a go at it myself later on tonight


Edit:
Seems to be working fine, except the UC only makes reference to one material, when there's 3 in total on the model...

Anyway, Barrier and Revolver.

[Pyro]

thats what i experienced too, my solution was dump all skins on a single map and adjust the UVW's

[[]KAOS[]Casey]

the revolver is weird. it seems the references to the animations beyond the hand aren't working, perhaps due to it thinking it's one material like mentioned before.



Dots took a look at it in milkshape and it seems all vertexes are assigned to the first bone and nothing else.


edit:

The barriers need 1 frame PSA's to actually display a "still" animation, they currently crash the mesh viewer and do nothing in game.

[DaveW]

Probably, there's 3 seperate objects on the Gun that all have Skin modifiers (that bind the skeletal rig to it), if they're not getting exported right the skeletal mesh won't apply to it.

I'll look into fixing it. I'll also re-export the barriers, I hadn't thought of that. Silly me

[Pyro]

aw crap, i wanted to tell you that!!
You have to make a proper tree of the scene, it is forbidden to have multiple objects linked to the scene root.



Also, what i did was apply all textures on a single texture,
and give that single texture to all objects, and adjust the UVW's,
so you have 1 material used in the scene.
(like so: http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/6121/g3final.png)

If you cant figure it out, give me the mesh you had in 3dsmax. ill fix you something nice

[DaveW]

Done that, now ActorX is refusing to realise the objects exist at all. This is why I hate export tools, they never work properly.

I don't know how best to give you the file, because 3DSMax's own FBX format doesn't support skin modifiers.


Here's the FBX file for the Barriers. I would export them myself but ActorX isn't recognising the objects, even though it did with the exact same scene setup a few days ago. This Max/ActorX rubbish is really starting to do my head in..

[[]KAOS[]Casey]

By the way..

most people will have s3tc enabled on 227 since it's true by default, so feel free to use a 2048x2048 texture if necessary.

[DieHard SCWS]

Hey Dave

Art question though, what's the maximum texture size Unreal Engine 1 supports? I'm used to working with 1.5 which supports up to 1024 but I'm not sure on Unreal's limitations.

non s3tc is 1024x1024, s3tc is 2048x2048 iirc

By the way..

most people will have s3tc enabled on 227 since it's true by default, so feel free to use a 2048x2048 texture if necessary.

For the normal textures 1024 x 1024 pixels is the limit, for S3TC the current limit is 4096 x 4096 pixels.
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[[]KAOS[]Casey]

sometimes I think unreal isn't as insane as it really is, the resident texture master speaks.. :p

[Pyro]

Done that, now ActorX is refusing to realise the objects exist at all. This is why I hate export tools, they never work properly.

I don't know how best to give you the file, because 3DSMax's own FBX format doesn't support skin modifiers.


Here's the FBX file for the Barriers. I would export them myself but ActorX isn't recognising the objects, even though it did with the exact same scene setup a few days ago. This Max/ActorX rubbish is really starting to do my head in..

Aslong as the UVW's remain its ok.(perhaps give those too)

what error ? unmatched node ID? then you didnt link all objects properly.
and about not working properly.. it does, you only have to know what the error means.