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Vista & U1, not seeing all the servers?

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 5:31 pm
by hLk_Havok
A player reported to me that they could not see a couple of my servers when they used Vista, so I tested it out myself. From the same home lan that I have 2 XP U1 clients that can see all my servers, I ran a Vista pc which could only see one server. (U1 225f). Checked to make sure no firewall / AV was installed, and none running. Tried behind a router (NAT'd) and then with a public IP on the Vista box in case it was some weird NAT issue.

Anyone else had issues w/Unreal 1 on Vistanot seeing the all the servers, when the same ver of U1 on XP see's them all? i'm stumped.

Re: Vista & U1, not seeing all the servers?

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:41 am
by Hyper
I use Vista and u227 server pinging is going very slow most of the time, with pauses and sometimes it just stops pinging half way.

Not sure if it is related to Vista or 227. Gamespy Arcade still pings fine.
I think it has been mentioned before, but I have not seen a fix.

Re: Vista & U1, not seeing all the servers?

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 3:07 pm
by hLk_Havok
ye its odd I tried with 225f, and then 227, still couldnt see all the servers....

Here's the interesting part. From the same network, public IP's on both systems (I have multiple public ip's).

At the same time I started U1 and checked the DM list

the XP system (225f):
Image

the Vista system (also 225f, though i have 227 in diff folder):
Image

the xp system see's 22 servers 11 players
the vista system see's 14 servers 4 players

Re: Vista & U1, not seeing all the servers?

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:36 pm
by Chaos13
My friend, Gizzy, has same problem. He uses DualCore and Vista. I'd just say f*ck vista!

Re: Vista & U1, not seeing all the servers?

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:55 pm
by Jâçkrâßßit
my guess is that vista doesn't like one of the master server query's

master.gamespy or the epic games one could do it.....

Re: Vista & U1, not seeing all the servers?

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 6:09 pm
by Chaos13
Yeah why dont you check your log. I cant check because i happily dont have vista.

Re: Vista & U1, not seeing all the servers?

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:01 pm
by []KAOS[]Casey
probably vistas winsock being a pos or something. Really have no idea..

Re: Vista & U1, not seeing all the servers?

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:02 pm
by Chaos13
Vista itself is pos or something...

Re: Vista & U1, not seeing all the servers?

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:15 am
by hLk_Havok
hmm well i did see this in the vista pc's unreal.log

Log: Resolved master0.gamespy.com (207.38.11.34)
ScriptLog: UBrowserGSpyLink: Master Server is master0.gamespy.com:28900
ScriptWarning: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing2 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: bind failed
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind.  Attempt 0
ScriptWarning: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing3 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: bind failed
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind.  Attempt 0
ScriptWarning: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing4 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: bind failed
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind.  Attempt 0
ScriptWarning: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing5 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: bind failed
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind.  Attempt 0
ScriptWarning: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing6 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: bind failed
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind.  Attempt 0
ScriptWarning: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing7 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: bind failed
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind.  Attempt 0
ScriptWarning: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing8 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: bind failed
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind.  Attempt 0
ScriptWarning: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing9 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: bind failed
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind.  Attempt 0
ScriptWarning: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing10 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: bind failed
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind.  Attempt 0
ScriptWarning: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing11 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: bind failed
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind.  Attempt 0
ScriptWarning: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing1 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: already bound
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind.  Attempt 1
ScriptWarning: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing2 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: already bound
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind.  Attempt 1
ScriptWarning: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing3 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: already bound
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind.  Attempt 1
ScriptWarning: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing4 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: already bound
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind.  Attempt 1
ScriptWarning: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing5 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: already bound
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind.  Attempt 1

etc.. etc..



googling the "ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind" message pulled up a lot of peeps having the same issue with ut, ut99, etc.. so I'm beginning to think its a Vista issue, which is bad news for U1 as XP is phased out...

Re: Vista & U1, not seeing all the servers?

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:49 am
by []KAOS[]Casey
"Bind failed"... i have never seen that message, only port already bound.. interesting.

Re: Vista & U1, not seeing all the servers?

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:25 am
by §]Skåtêr[§
I also had this problem. Me and some friends were wanting to play a team game but i couldnt play cause the server wouldnt show up  :-/

Re: Vista & U1, not seeing all the servers?

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:44 am
by Smirftsch
I don't think vista will replace XP for the people- maybe next gen windows does :)

Currently see no reason for this behavior, it simply utilizes winsock.h - which really should be compatible, since using latest platform SDK already. 227e does behave the same for sure?
Seems I must install windoze viagr... ehrm vista myself to do further investigations if so....


Re: Vista & U1, not seeing all the servers?

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:06 pm
by Chaos13
XP > Vista :P Dont know about Windows Se7en but... Simply upgrade to XP guys! ;D

Re: Vista & U1, not seeing all the servers?

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:44 pm
by GreatEmerald
XP x64 (AKA Server 2003) is even better. Very stable, not too many patches and still XP.

Re: Vista & U1, not seeing all the servers?

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:07 pm
by HeadShot
XP x64 (AKA Server 2003) is even better. Very stable, not too many patches and still XP.
How much better is the x64? I was going to buy it, but I didn't know if having to redo all my settings was worth it. ( i mean all my installed apps and their settings ) of course I could back it all up, but that way of doing things doesn't place them add/remove and such.

Re: Vista & U1, not seeing all the servers?

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:09 pm
by hLk_Havok
I don't think vista will replace XP for the people- maybe next gen windows does :)

Currently see no reason for this behavior, it simply utilizes winsock.h - which really should be compatible, since using latest platform SDK already. 227e does behave the same for sure?
Seems I must install windoze viagr... ehrm vista myself to do further investigations if so....
yes same log entries seen in 225f and 227e on the vista pc.

also here's a link to a thread where someone says the problem is the code for the bindport function and w/vista it doesnt increment properly.

I wonder if the 227 patch could be programmed to fix this?
http://forums.beyondunreal.com/showthread.php?p=2142275

Re: Vista & U1, not seeing all the servers?

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:47 pm
by Chaos13
You need to have 64-bit processor to get x64 to work :D

Re: Vista & U1, not seeing all the servers?

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:31 pm
by [§Ŕ] ŤhěxĐâŕkśîđěŕ
Another good reason not to use Vista... Damn good reason... What would I play if not Unreal 1? ;)

Re: Vista & U1, not seeing all the servers?

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:36 pm
by Chaos13
Another good reason not to use Vista... darn good reason... What would I play if not Unreal 1? ;)
UnrealEd ;) sorry for offtop ;)

Re: Vista & U1, not seeing all the servers?

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:37 pm
by GreatEmerald
HeadShot, it's worth it when you'll need to do a reinstall (due to old OS starting to have problems, reinstallation is good each ~2 years). The code base is more stable, and it makes use of the dual core system.

Re: Vista & U1, not seeing all the servers?

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:39 pm
by Zombie
I tested for this on a Vista machine with 226f, and so far I'm able to query the list of servers without bind failures. It's the same with Windows firewall on or off and an AV active. Something else that could be unique about the setup of some of these Vista machines?

Vista 32-bit SP1 + latest Windows updates


-Zombie

Re: Vista & U1, not seeing all the servers?

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:40 pm
by [§Ŕ] ŤhěxĐâŕkśîđěŕ
Lol another solution would be to put XP AND Vista on same PC - XP for Unreal and some other stuff and Vista for something else... Or don't use Vista at all. :D
BTW, one of my friends once had 7 different Windows installed at the same time cuz only on one he had working DSL connection, on other wireless network connection and on else games worked better. ;D
And his PC dealt very fine with all those Windows. :o

Re: Vista & U1, not seeing all the servers?

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:41 pm
by Chaos13
Lol another solution would be to put XP AND Vista on same PC - XP for Unreal and some other stuff and Vista for something else... Or don't use Vista at all. :D
BTW, one of my friends once had 7 different Windows installed at the same time cuz only on one he had working DSL connection, on other wireless network connection and on else games worked better. ;D
And his PC dealt very fine with all those Windows. :o
Reminds me of 7-cylinder diesel car engine ;D

What vista you use btw, Zombie.

Re: Vista & U1, not seeing all the servers?

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:25 pm
by hLk_Havok
I tested for this on a Vista machine with 226f, and so far I'm able to query the list of servers without bind failures. It's the same with Windows firewall on or off and an AV active. Something else that could be unique about the setup of some of these Vista machines?

Vista 32-bit SP1 + latest Windows updates


-Zombie
well i would have thought perhaps there was something unique to the pc i am using w/vista business sp1. However I tried it on a brand new dell on a different network, same results. be interesting if others have vista to see what results they get. Like I said I only checked it on my own vista as a clan-mate reported the issue with his new Vista machine. So I think there's something to it. Personally I like my XP machine for gaming, but if this is some kinda Vista prob, it'd be cool if we can find a work-around for it.

Re: Vista & U1, not seeing all the servers?

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:43 am
by Hyper
Another log for bringing up the [all servers] tab.
Log: Resolving master0.gamespy.com...
Log: Resolving master.thenerdnetwork.com...
Log: Resolving unreal.epicgames.com...
Log: Resolved master0.gamespy.com (207.38.11.34)
ScriptLog: UBrowserGSpyLink: Master Server is master0.gamespy.com:28900
Log: Resolved master.thenerdnetwork.com (63.124.142.2)
ScriptLog: UBrowserGSpyLink: Master Server is master.thenerdnetwork.com:28900
Log: Resolved unreal.epicgames.com (216.27.56.3)
ScriptLog: UBrowserGSpyLink: Master Server is unreal.epicgames.com:28900
ScriptLog: UBrowserGSpyLink: Couldn't connect to master server.
Log: CheckConnectionAttempt: Error while checking socket status.
Log: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing58 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: bind failed
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind. Attempt 0
Log: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing59 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: bind failed
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind. Attempt 0
Log: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing60 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: bind failed
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind. Attempt 0
Log: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing61 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: bind failed
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind. Attempt 0
Log: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing62 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: bind failed
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind. Attempt 0
Log: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing63 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: bind failed
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind. Attempt 0
Log: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing64 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: bind failed
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind. Attempt 0
Log: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing65 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: bind failed
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind. Attempt 0
Log: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing66 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: bind failed
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind. Attempt 0
ScriptLog: Ping Timeout from 24.77.145.98. Attempt 1
Log: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing58 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: already bound
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind. Attempt 1
Log: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing59 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: already bound
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind. Attempt 1
Log: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing60 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: already bound
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind. Attempt 1
Log: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing61 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: already bound
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind. Attempt 1
Log: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing62 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: already bound
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind. Attempt 1
Log: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing63 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: already bound
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind. Attempt 1
Log: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing64 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: already bound
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind. Attempt 1
Log: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing65 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: already bound
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind. Attempt 1
Log: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing66 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: already bound
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind. Attempt 1
ScriptLog: Ping Timeout from 71.84.15.80. Attempt 1
Log: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing58 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: already bound
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind. Attempt 2
Log: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing59 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: already bound
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind. Attempt 2
Log: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing60 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: already bound
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind. Attempt 2
Log: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing61 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: already bound
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind. Attempt 2
Log: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing62 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: already bound
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind. Attempt 2
Log: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing63 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: already bound
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind. Attempt 2
Log: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing64 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: already bound
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind. Attempt 2
Log: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing65 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: already bound
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind. Attempt 2
Log: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing66 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: already bound
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind. Attempt 2
ScriptLog: Ping Timeout from 71.84.15.80 Giving Up
Log: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing58 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: already bound
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind. Attempt 3
Log: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing59 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: already bound
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind. Attempt 3
Log: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing60 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: already bound
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind. Attempt 3
Log: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing61 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: already bound
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind. Attempt 3
Log: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing62 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: already bound
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind. Attempt 3
Log: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing63 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: already bound
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind. Attempt 3
Log: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing64 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: already bound
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind. Attempt 3
Log: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing65 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: already bound
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind. Attempt 3
Log: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing66 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: already bound
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind. Attempt 3
Log: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing58 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: already bound
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind. Attempt 4
Log: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing59 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: already bound
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind. Attempt 4
Log: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing60 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: already bound
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind. Attempt 4
Log: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing61 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: already bound
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind. Attempt 4
Log: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing62 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: already bound
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind. Attempt 4
Log: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing63 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: already bound
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind. Attempt 4
Log: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing64 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: already bound
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind. Attempt 4
Log: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing65 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: already bound
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind. Attempt 4
Log: UBrowserServerPing Entry.UBrowserServerPing66 (State UBrowser.UBrowserServerPing.Binding:0010) BindPort: already bound
ScriptLog: UBrowserServerPing: Port failed to bind. Attempt 4
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