Wikipedia - Oldunreal needs some voices it seems

[Pravin]

Sorry indeed... In my opinion, Wikipedia is a complete waste of time and effort. Sure, it's widely known, but anyone who expects professional data from an unbiased source (haha!) from Wikipedia is a complete moron. The fight to keep the link in is nothing short of madness. You guys *have* looked at the past four pages of this thread, right? One day, everyone proclaims that the fight has been won, only to have it overturned by an anonymous person the next. I think it might be better to just say fuck the wiki. (yes, I know that word is going to be censored)

And no I had nothing to do with the link removal, obviously..

[Smirftsch]

Maybe you are even right, PCube, I'm fully aware about that - and I wouldn't have edited it if not the message "Epic do not recommend it" suddenly appeared which was/is plain wrong. (Wondering how long it stays this way now?)
Link or not link is another question, but to spread wrong information is not acceptable.

[Pravin]

lol I put the link back in and nobody's touching it.. well, the link is "hidden" in the text 'OldUnreal'.. eat that TESUKUEKEUAKEUSKEKSK

[[§Ŕ] ŤhěxĐâŕkśîđěŕ]

Oh that's you who put it back. Lol I saw it today.

[Hyper]

The problem at the Wikipedia article now mostly seems to be centered around the lack of reliable third party sources with a clear description of what Unreal patch 227 is, what it does and how it relates to Epic Games and OldUnreal (Smirftsch).

[Smirftsch]

which is again a problem because what kind of source which is "reliable" in their eyes will report again about such an old game?
I mean, of course I will try to announce it as big as possible when its final but the chances are really not good.
What bothers me then is the following:
A content can't be added if its not made public (community pages are completely ignored) by some commercial magazine.
Such a magazine won't probably publish it because there is not much money to make with it.
So a fact can only be seen as fact on wikipedia if someone earned enough money with it? Every other possibility is denied directly by any of these so called maintainers.
What kind of encyclopedia is that?

But at least it is possible to create an own wikipage and link to it then, so at least it was said in the latest discussion. Just need someone to do it, because if I do it, I'm biased and WP:COI and whatever.

[Hellkeeper]

Added the link to the French wikipedia. Seems to stay in place

[Smirftsch]

no no, if i got it right, the idea is to create a wikipage maybe named Oldunreal with the info about the patch and what it does and link to that...

[GreatEmerald]

Wait a min, but when you announce it as final, you will surely get news on BeyondUnreal and PlanetUnreal etc. Won't that be enough to be a good source?

[Smirftsch]

what makes these 2 better or more than oldunreal? Oldunreal is maybe even older... no idea, actually doesnt matter - but don't think they will be sufficient, they are "only" community pages also, maybe more known because covering the later and nowadays more popular Unreal engine games but... indeed these cover Unreal only very limited yet because of that, which should make them even less qualified...well you know what i mean-
what they mean is some kind of news magazine, in the discussion there are mentioned some

[Hellkeeper]

BeyondUnreal's public must be 10times larger than OldUnreal's. THIS makes a difference for them. That's bullshit, but unfortunately that's how it works

[[§Ŕ] ŤhěxĐâŕkśîđěŕ]

OldUnreal rulez and I put the link only to here on my site.

[GreatEmerald]

Hellkeeper is right. And also, BUF and PU are not affiliated with the creators of 227 - while OldUnreal surely is.

[[§Ŕ] ŤhěxĐâŕkśîđěŕ]

Damn right. But if the whole world consisted of me, myself and I, Oldunreal would have most traffic and highest number of members.

[Hellkeeper]

...not affiliated with the creators of 227 - while OldUnreal surely is.

NO WAY § SRSLY ?

[Smirftsch]

for everyone who cares, the discussion still goes on:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Unreal

But if you consider to take part in this discussion be sure that you read everything before...