hackers ?

[niels]

hello everyone who reads this.
I strate unreal and joinde a game I think the *UaS* Clan Server was. but it is something difficult degree 5.
the download was done and it was vortex riders but made darker.
I asked how you came and flashlight.
an admin teleport me to him (for a flashlight.) suddenly came on top of unreal (so hot I servers) unreal changed its name to "ima Busta" I thought that this admin but that did not.
when I typed (say) would push came to "stink i" "i eat shit" and so on.
du I put absolutely unreal and back on I did when I botmatch (not online) I have a kite titan spawn but came up when I see a panda, I like to eat his own balls.

I went straight to main menu to change my name but that was not
I deleted from my computer and unreal istal back.
I installed the patch and New clicked play unreal.
suddenly there were errors on alemaal I think so and 20.
All I had to click away, there suddenly on unreal exe does not work anymore.
al and happiness that I have unreal return to napali have.
there also quantile errors but still works  :'( :-/
sorry for my bad english  :'(
  help me please
    Niels

[Gizzy]

Sounds like the admin of that server might have done something to your Unreal.... (Xcoop anyone?)

Just re-install Unreal and the 227e patch after, that should fix it.

[Smirftsch]

Suggestion for that is- delete and re-install Unreal completely.

What happened here is a very sad story. Either the server you visited was hacked or the server admin himself abused his powers.
In general an admin is able to add mods and packages which allow him to gain some control over the client. This means ini's can be changed, applications and dll's can be damaged, Unreal ingame passwords can be read out. 227 prevents already a lot of these things- upcoming 227f even more  but it can't be completely prevented.
Most of the "usual" servers can be considered safe however, but you should avoid visiting this server again and maybe report in some official forum like this one which server it was- to protect others in the community.
Luckily it happened only very rare over the years.
Admin is admin and you visit this admins home (server). In theory any package which you download can be checked and the malicious one can be identified  but thats more a pro's only way. There is no 100% method for a normal player how to determine which server is dangerous and which not.
The forums here will help and maybe be careful if a server has a lot of packages until you can join-  but that mustn't necessarily mean that a server is "dangerous"- there are quite a couple of servers with 100's of packages and are still safe- such as Hyper's servers f.e.

Hope this info helps a bit and tell us please which server it happened on.

[Oldsparky]

Newbiesplayground servers are clean. We do not hack clients.

[niels]

Sounds like the admin of that server might have done something to your Unreal.... (Xcoop anyone?)

Just re-install Unreal and the 227e patch after, that should fix it.

tx unreal working again 8-)

[SkaarjSlayer]

It may not have been an OFFICIAL Newbie's Playground server, but some idiot who hosted a non-dedicated server with a similar name to attract players.

My advice is, before joining a server, check what gametype they're using and if they're using "xcoop", avoid that server. XCoop pretty much allows the admin to change anything they want with your Unreal and so it is pretty much dangerous.

So yea, avoid any servers running Xcoop unless it's the UAS or KSA server since they do run xcoop but do not encourage the abuse of new players to the game.

Hope that helps.

[Leo T_C_K]

It may not have been an OFFICIAL Newbie's Playground server, but some idiot who hosted a non-dedicated server with a similar name to attract players.

My advice is, before joining a server, check what gametype they're using and if they're using "xcoop", avoid that server. XCoop pretty much allows the admin to change anything they want with your Unreal and so it is pretty much dangerous.

So yea, avoid any servers running Xcoop unless it's the UAS or KSA server since they do run xcoop but do not encourage the abuse of new players to the game.

Hope that helps.

It is not only about xcoop, there has been this controlrifle and something else, which can be in any server and it had worse functions than xcoop.
Besides I have heard (only heard, this could be hoax as well, wanting me to believe in something, but due to my experience you can never know) that UAS server admins abuse clients on daily basis or something like that. I never join it, because I can't with older versions...

[[]KAOS[]Casey]

Also @ OP

Once you get your settings to a desired state, open your system folder, find unreal and user.ini and readonly them, that way if you're ever comprimised again like that you can just close unreal and restart and it will be like nothing happened. You may want to readonly the entire system folder save unreal.log like that as well.

[SkaarjSlayer]

It may not have been an OFFICIAL Newbie's Playground server, but some idiot who hosted a non-dedicated server with a similar name to attract players.

My advice is, before joining a server, check what gametype they're using and if they're using "xcoop", avoid that server. XCoop pretty much allows the admin to change anything they want with your Unreal and so it is pretty much dangerous.

So yea, avoid any servers running Xcoop unless it's the UAS or KSA server since they do run xcoop but do not encourage the abuse of new players to the game.

Hope that helps.

It is not only about xcoop, there has been this controlrifle and something else, which can be in any server and it had worse functions than xcoop.
Besides I have heard (only heard, this could be hoax as well, wanting me to believe in something, but due to my experience you can never know) that UAS server admins abuse clients on daily basis or something like that. I never join it, because I can't with older versions...

Sure, but avoiding servers running xcoop greatly narrows the list of potentially dangerous servers. I only mentioned it because you can you can safely check for it without having to join the server.

As for the rumours of admin abuse on UAS, I'm not a part of the clan so I don't know what goes on. I'm just basing what I said off the fact that I go on that server all the time (with or without admins present) and have never had any trouble.

However, I can safely say that admins on the KSA server are completely non-abusive. We definitely do not encourage the abuse of players on Unreal.

[Pravin]

Really... I don't recall xCoop being the bane of players' existences in Unreal... There is one command which can be entirely disabled, and you don't even need xCoop to execute client-side routines. Anything at all could do it - including a simple, random actor that you are completely unaware of. Anyways, just stay away from shady servers. I mean, UAS runs xCoop and is completely fine in my opinion.

[[§Ŕ] ŤhěxĐâŕkśîđěŕ]

KSA and UAS are fine with me. Actually, I never got hacked like that. I hacked my own .exe files and now they randomly crash, but the heck, I'll just reinstall and use the hex editor more sparingly. As for that "ridge" guy, all he ever does is makes pyramid quotes, flames Casey, or something like that. It should be taken into consideration. And for Casey's server, I used to go there on my PC (I play only a bit of Inf these days) and I like that cool stuff, like MoverMag, etc. +25 for Casey.

[Gizzy]

It may not have been an OFFICIAL Newbie's Playground server, but some idiot who hosted a non-dedicated server with a similar name to attract players.

My advice is, before joining a server, check what gametype they're using and if they're using "xcoop", avoid that server. XCoop pretty much allows the admin to change anything they want with your Unreal and so it is pretty much dangerous.

So yea, avoid any servers running Xcoop unless it's the UAS or KSA server since they do run xcoop but do not encourage the abuse of new players to the game.

Hope that helps.

KSA Doesn't run Xcoop, it runs Dreamcoop.

And Leo, as for admins abusing powers on UaS, only trustworthy people (aside from 1 or 2 who I shan't name) have admin, and they don't abuse it. If someone acts like a complete fool (Teamkilling, spamming), they are dealt with harshly.

[Buster]

I just have to put in my two cents worth about this whole mess.

First of all to niels ...

Sorry to hear about what happened to you. It's unfortunate that you happen to meet an idiot on a Unreal server. Sounds like you were the victem of somebody who happen to figure out the admin password to a Newbie's server.

Sidebar to Sparky - change thier passwords just in case that's the reason.

And I have to also state ... "ima Busta" has NOTHING to do with me. I'm Buster - the one and only. I'm not Busta. Just had to toss that out there, because there have been people who've used the alias Busta.

As for the vast majority of the Unreal server I've ever heard about or played on, what happened to you (just as Smirftsch said) is very rare. I personally have never had a anything that nasty happen to me while on any Unreal server. And that would be over a period of 8+ years.

And niels ...

Glad you got your Unreal up and going again. What I do, after a fresh install of Unreal, is to setup everything the way I like it and copy over all the main .ini files into the Save folder. Every now and then just overwrite the ones in the System folder with these saved ones. If that doesn't fix any little changes that something might have made, then a fresh install is required.

Secondly to Casey ...

Don't sweat it, man. Idiots will always have their opinions. And even though I may be the wrong person to say this (as I have freaked on idiots myself once or twice - the longtimers here at Oldunreal can vouch for that), I do have to say ... is anyone's opinion even worth a response. If you know what they're saying is copulating bovine ecrement, phuck it - it don't mean nothing, and move on.

All of us "regulars" in the Unreal community have had BS said about each of us at one time or another, except for maybe Smirftsch and Diehard. There was once (and still may be) a whole paragraph posted on an Unreal website about how much of an asphole I am. So just don't sweat it, man. Laugh about it.

OK, I'm done now. That's my two cents worth. Be glad I didn't give a nickel. LoL

[Age]

Can 227f have something like everytime you start Unreal, it will make a backup for both unreal.ini and user.ini?

[KillerSkaarj]

Something even worse happened to me. Someone corrupted my Unrealshare.u by filling it with log text. I couldn't get back into Unreal. Good thing I had two installs so that I could talk to Pcube about it on his server, or I would've had to reinstall the whole game, losing my countless mods on there. He sent me his Unrealshare.u and I was able to start up Unreal perfectly. The guy who screwed with me was an impersonator of one of the people working on the mod Horror Series (let's call him Dave) and I didn't know he was an impersonator until I spoke to the real Dave via Messenger. it turned out that someone else I know (not naming any actual names, so let's name him Bo) was impersonating Dave and caused my Unreal to break. So Dave had found out that Bo was the impersonator. It turns out he was trying to get certain people to hate each other, including me and Dave and we only figured it out by a Teamspeak conversation he and someone else was having. So yeah, there's my sad story.

The truth is, there are still scum in Unreal. The fact is, if we were to exile this scum from every server, it'd do nothing but hurt the community as much as help it, as it's already small enough as it is.

[[]KAOS[]Casey]

Can 227f have something like everytime you start Unreal, it will make a backup for both unreal.ini and user.ini?

actually sounds like a good idea

[Smirftsch]

i really think this should stay in the hand of the user. If you want a backup, make one.
Besides, an ini for players doesn't contain that much important information anyway. My default setup I make within 2 minutes. A server admin should have backups in any case.
Also, 227f is really almost done now, many tests and checks were made. Waiting for a very few things still now. Localization could need more helpers, otherwise especially Italian and Spanish version will be bugged in translation.
I simply don't want to add more stuff now. We will keep on completing maybe unfinished things and fix of course bugs which are left and found until then but only until I have everything necessary from everyone involved. Then I want to release it, no further delays.

[[§Ŕ] ŤhěxĐâŕkśîđěŕ]

Something even worse happened to me. Someone corrupted my Unrealshare.u by filling it with log text. I couldn't get back into Unreal. Good thing I had two installs so that I could talk to Pcube about it on his server, or I would've had to reinstall the whole game, losing my countless mods on there. He sent me his Unrealshare.u and I was able to start up Unreal perfectly. The guy who screwed with me was an impersonator of one of the people working on the mod Horror Series (let's call him Dave) and I didn't know he was an impersonator until I spoke to the real Dave via Messenger. it turned out that someone else I know (not naming any actual names, so let's name him Bo) was impersonating Dave and caused my Unreal to break. So Dave had found out that Bo was the impersonator. It turns out he was trying to get certain people to hate each other, including me and Dave and we only figured it out by a Teamspeak conversation he and someone else was having. So yeah, there's my sad story.

The truth is, there are still scum in Unreal. The fact is, if we were to exile this scum from every server, it'd do nothing but hurt the community as much as help it, as it's already small enough as it is.

About that, there was a specific "person" that put his 1/2 cent posting somewhere in the forums that he will do that, and that he needs help. I saw it, man. I'm 100% out of 104,5% sure who did it. Hit me up on MSN when you get the chance. I maybe happen to have that thingyhole's IP address and stuff on my PC. He's bugged me too much in the past, man, and I think it's about time we get rid of that S-hole. When I restore data from my PC, I'll tell you his Identity and IdentNr, and, attention to all server admins: ban imminent. Thank you for banning that feces-extractor in advance.

[Matrix224]

It is not only about xcoop, there has been this controlrifle and something else, which can be in any server and it had worse functions than xcoop.
Besides I have heard (only heard, this could be hoax as well, wanting me to believe in something, but due to my experience you can never know) that UAS server admins abuse clients on daily basis or something like that. I never join it, because I can't with older versions...

As for the rumors-

1. Admins were only abusive to people who deserved it, as in, people who had been attacking the server, been cache ripping, excessively killing when they'd been told to stop over 10 times, etc. It was done only to people who had earned it, and deserved it.

2. It was not on a "daily basis", unless someone kept coming back and pulled the same stunts. UAS also rarely banned, so it would only be considered to be a daily basis for some people. Others were left alone and not touched at all.

3. UAS has also lowered its treatment / punishment to just rapid killing, kicking, or now banning. Only people who deserve this would get it. No innocents would / ever did get treated harshly.

That's all i have to say on the topic.

[niels]

Newbiesplayground servers are clean.  We do not hack clients.

sorry it was a *UaS* Clan Server

[niels]

hello everyone who reads this.
I strate unreal and joinde a game I think the *UaS* Clan Server was. but it is something difficult degree 5.
the download was done and it was vortex riders but made darker.
I asked how you came and flashlight.
an admin teleport me to him (for a flashlight.) suddenly came on top of unreal (so hot I servers) unreal changed its name to "ima Busta" I thought that this admin but that did not.
when I typed (say) would push came to "stink i" "i eat nuts" and so on.
du I put absolutely unreal and back on I did when I botmatch (not online) I have a kite titan spawn but came up when I see a panda, I like to eat his own balls.

I went straight to main menu to change my name but that was not
I deleted from my computer and unreal istal back.
I installed the patch and New clicked play unreal.
suddenly there were errors on alemaal I think so and 20.
All I had to click away, there suddenly on unreal exe does not work anymore.
al and happiness that I have unreal return to napali have.
there also quantile errors but still works  :'( :-/
sorry for my bad english  :'(
  help me please
    Niels

all bad to me (players) "havoc""tolga (tukichs)" "max"" ""shasa "" player 8""Jackson""DarkSquirrel"" ss""

[[§Ŕ] ŤhěxĐâŕkśîđěŕ]

"Player 8" seems quite a random name. And most people, especially the shady ones, often change their name, at least for lulz. And there is quite a bit of impersonating going on. We have to investigate (more).

[Matrix224]

sorry it was a *UaS* Clan Server

I did not do anything to you, nor did my admins. This topic was made (according to what it says for me) yesterday.  My admins and I NEVER saw you on yesterday. My server was turned on at about 5:00 PM Eastern Standard Time. I joined at about 5:30. Before this point, there was only one person named Gunner17 in there and I know for a fact he is not you. So, as I was saying. I joined at 5:30 and was on until about 12:00 AM Eastern Standard (Yup, no life.) No Niels at all. No random people I've never heard of either in case you were using an alias. No one was kicked, banned, or anything. No one had been touched. This morning I checked back to see what happened when I wasn't on. You were not there then either. You weren't there today either. But, could you of been JOINING yesterday? Yes, maybe. But, you never did fully join. My server would not mess up your Unreal either from just downloading; no ones would I believe. And if you do not believe me, then you can ask others who have joined. So, in conclusion, I believe you are either making this up, or you are mistaken.

- Matrix

[SkaarjSlayer]

I can support Matrix' statement because I had decided to miss school yesterday and so had spent a majority of the day talking to Matrix on MSN and hanging out with him on the UAS server.

No one had been touched, kicked, banned, nothing. You also never appeared on the server either.

niels, you are a new poster, it seems. Because of that, I find your statements hard to believe since you have seemed to contribute nothing to oldUnreal except your "bad experience" and problems with loading the master server. Not that I am insulting you, but it doesn't help your argument when you consider that you have just recently joined oldUnreal and then went to make a claim (without evidence), then change your mind, and now more than one person contradicts what you have said.

Also, you originally said Newbie's Playground, then changed your mind and said UAS. To me, you seem to be waffle-weaving and it just looks like you're trying to cause crap.

You should either provide evidence of your statements, or be truthful about what you're saying instead of causing crap.

[niels]

I can support Matrix' statement because I had decided to miss school yesterday and so had spent a majority of the day talking to Matrix on MSN and hanging out with him on the UAS server.

No one had been touched, kicked, banned, nothing. You also never appeared on the server either.

niels, you are a new poster, it seems. Because of that, I find your statements hard to believe since you have seemed to contribute nothing to oldUnreal except your "bad experience" and problems with loading the master server. Not that I am insulting you, but it doesn't help your argument when you consider that you have just recently joined oldUnreal and then went to make a claim (without evidence), then change your mind, and now more than one person contradicts what you have said.

Also, you originally said Newbie's Playground, then changed your mind and said UAS. To me, you seem to be waffle-weaving and it just looks like you're trying to cause crap.

You should either provide evidence of your statements, or be truthful about what you're saying instead of causing crap.

my name online is unreal