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Wikipedia is at it again......

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 5:57 pm
by Jâçkrâßßit
Okay.. so apparently TSUK contacted wiki administrators to remove the "227 external link" from the "external link" section and now I am unable to edit it and re-add it...
Oldunreal Official 227 Patch Link removal

This link must not be removed. I will keep having people add it back from the community as I contact them via MSN Messenger. This links to the official OldUnreal Community patch granted permissions to Smirftsch by Epic Megagames. It is important that this link is seen by old players and new who have played or are just starting to play Unreal (the original). This patch fixes major networking issues in the original 1998 versions of unreal. I don't know who is contacting you about removing this link (namely The Stalwart UK 'TSUK') but this link should be considered a privilege for Wikipedia articles. (providing that most of Wikipedia articles are only based off of fact). You can email my back at jackrabbit@unrealcoop.net if you would like to discuss this further. If not, I will have people spam the royal shit out of the unreal wiki article.
I wrote this on the Administrators page:
LINK:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:HighKing

Re: Wikipedia is at it again......

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:29 pm
by Mr. Minus
Don't think this went well.It's been updated.
Copied from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:HighKing

Oldunreal Official 227 Patch Link removal
This link must not be removed. I will keep having people add it back from the community as I contact them via MSN Messenger. This links to the official OldUnreal Community patch granted permissions to Smirftsch by Epic Megagames. It is important that this link is seen by old players and new who have played or are just starting to play Unreal (the original). This patch fixes major networking issues in the original 1998 versions of unreal. I don't know who is contacting you about removing this link (namely The Stalwart UK 'TSUK') but this link should be considered a privilege for Wikipedia articles. (providing that most of Wikipedia articles are only based off of fact). You can email my back at jackrabbit@unrealcoop.net if you would like to discuss this further. If not, I will have people spam the royal shit out of the unreal wiki article.

First of all, I did not remove the link. Second, threats and ignoring policy usually results in getting blocked from editing. Please read WP:EL and argue the case for including the link rather than making threats. --HighKing (talk) 18:05, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:HighKing"

Re: Wikipedia is at it again......

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:35 pm
by Jâçkrâßßit
update:

Please do not add promotional material to Wikipedia, as you did to Unreal. While objective prose about products or services is acceptable, Wikipedia is not intended to be a vehicle for advertising or promotion. Thank you. HighKing (talk) 17:45, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

If this is a shared IP address, and you didn't make the edit, consider creating an account for yourself so you can avoid further irrelevant notices.


Oldunreal Official 227 Patch Link removal

This link must not be removed. I will keep having people add it back from the community as I contact them via MSN Messenger. This links to the official OldUnreal Community patch granted permissions to Smirftsch by Epic Megagames. It is important that this link is seen by old players and new who have played or are just starting to play Unreal (the original). This patch fixes major networking issues in the original 1998 versions of unreal. I don't know who is contacting you about removing this link (namely The Stalwart UK 'TSUK') but this link should be considered a privilege for Wikipedia articles. (providing that most of Wikipedia articles are only based off of fact). You can email me back at jackrabbit@unrealcoop.net if you would like to discuss this further. Or you can comment here.

I would like to add that there is no promotional vehicle under the 227 patch. This patch is an optional parameter for clients to install into their Unreal versions. People may choose whether or not they want to upgrade to the newer version of unreal.. it is completely up to them. Having a external link to the OldUnreal wiki-article simply supplies information about the advantages of upgrading to the latest patch. If you don't believe me.. go to it yourself. I'm not trying to say that the administrators at Wikipedia are full-of-shit when they pull out the rule book, but I think you should conduct more investigation before you completely block me from editing a section of a wiki page without my permission. I guess thats the reason a few of my professors don't let us quote Wiki articles.

Please stop. If you continue to add promotional material to Wikipedia, as you did to Unreal, you will be blocked from editing. HighKing (talk) 18:23, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

If this is a shared IP address, and you didn't make the edit, consider creating an account for yourself so you can avoid further irrelevant notices.

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24hours in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for Edit warring on Unreal and then making outrageous threats of spamming of the article on Talk:HighKing. Any more of this, and you may well be blocked further and your IP traced with the ISP responsible contacted.. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make constructive contributions. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text {{unblock|your reason here}} below, but you should read our guide to appealing blocks first. DDStretch (talk) 18:33, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Re: Wikipedia is at it again......

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:38 pm
by Jâçkrâßßit
I'm obviously talking to a 'robot' and not a person here.

Re: Wikipedia is at it again......

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:48 pm
by [§Ŕ] ŤhěxĐâŕkśîđěŕ
But what actually happened? I see the title "Wikipedia is at it again.....", but I don't understand what is this all about. :-?

Re: Wikipedia is at it again......

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:50 pm
by Jâçkrâßßit
But what actually happened? I see the title "Wikipedia is at it again.....", but I don't understand what is this all about. :-?
sorry.. Basically people keep removing the 227 Oldunreal Wiki link from the external link section of the official Unreal wiki. HighKing apparently sent me a message telling me NOT to re-add the external link. I assumed he was the one who removed the link.. but apparently not.

Re: Wikipedia is at it again......

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:56 pm
by [§Ŕ] ŤhěxĐâŕkśîđěŕ
People remove the link to Oldunreal wiki? Shame on them! >:(

Re: Wikipedia is at it again......

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:45 pm
by Chaos13
Fuck them. Smirf still hadnt got any *really really* well... ehh proof that 227 is official? (not including such "cascading" proof like link on upgrade.htm and etc...)

Re: Wikipedia is at it again......

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:54 pm
by [§Ŕ] ŤhěxĐâŕkśîđěŕ
So what if 227 is not official. Only fucking bastards could remove the link.

Re: Wikipedia is at it again......

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 8:24 pm
by Chaos13
So what if 227 is not official. Only fucking bastards could remove the link.
+1

Re: Wikipedia is at it again......

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 11:59 pm
by Hyper
This isn't going the right way. Threatening Wikipedia users/admins is not the way to help Smirftsch and get OldUnreal mentioned. The article is locked now because of actions mentioned here.

Because of this, I'll lock this thread. Any constructive replies about the future of the Wikipedia Unreal article and the role of OldUnreal in it can be made in the [url=http://www.oldunreal.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1215417754]original thread[/url].

Final note: As some of you might have experienced now, Wikipedia is quite an bureaucratic medium. While they invite anyone to contribute they can be very defensive to changes in existing articles.