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Ban system

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:06 pm
by [§Ŕ] ŤhěxĐâŕkśîđěŕ
Hi guys I am too curious...:) I wanna know how does ban system in Unreal 1 work. I was banned from a server while I was playing with v227.  >:( Then i reinstalled v226 and I got in the server like a piece of cake. XD. Yep. And when I tried from v227 again, I couldn't enter. LOL. So I don't understand how does the ban system work and how does it generate IdentNr and Identity. And is it always the same from one computer for all servers or you have different IdentNr and Identity on every server. And why am I just banned on v227?

ThexDarksider

Re: Ban system

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:11 pm
by Chaos13
~ IP system works on all versions.
~ IdentNr and Identity works only on 227
Result:

Re: Ban system

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:15 pm
by [§Ŕ] ŤhěxĐâŕkśîđěŕ
Hmmm... So if I use versions older then v227, I just need to change IP address (not domain name, cuz I have one) and when I change it, I should be able to log onto the server without any problems.

Re: Ban system

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:16 pm
by Chaos13
Correct. Dynamic IP is enough. However then be afraid getting banned by IP Range.

Personally i have Static IP and i hate that. And i cant host server :'(. Lucky you.

Re: Ban system

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:19 pm
by [§Ŕ] ŤhěxĐâŕkśîđěŕ
LOL I wouldn't want that. ;D And one more question... If I log onto server from another computer or on an older version (if I get into the game) and use one of the names that I used when I was banned, will i have my stuff? (If it is coop.)

P.S. BTW, thank you very much for in-a-minute answering cuz that was bothering for a longer time. XD And I'm not gonna go to that server until I'm unbanned on v227. I can host my own server if I really NEED to play in that moment with guys online. :)

Re: Ban system

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:21 pm
by Chaos13
If the server doesnt use GemDagger (Hyper Servers) then you will. Otherwise you will need to use excactly ?Password when joining server when you have been banned, otherwise you wont get the inventory.

Just curious: What server you were banned from?

Re: Ban system

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:27 pm
by [§Ŕ] ŤhěxĐâŕkśîđěŕ
V227 generates random passwords so I can't. LOL! Anyway, as I said, I'm not going there until I'm unbanned. I'm a fair guy, despite what some people think :D. If you really need to know, that's Zora's server. I was blocking maps on start (Bluff, DCrater, etc.) that noobs can't go further into the map and shoot at me. Duh!

And, that wouldn't be me if I don't ask, despite I said that was the last question, why do I have to use the same password? Is there a reason for that or it's just the code? ;)

And, what if I logged in WITHOUT a password?

Re: Ban system

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:30 pm
by Chaos13
Yes, Zora. I hardly got myself unbanned from there. Thats the only server where you can get banned i think... and YOU KNOW ITS 225 (iirc). SoZ... the thing is only in your IP... and that Zora's ban manager in her new NPT can use 227 Identity info to ban your ass.

Re: Ban system

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:35 pm
by [§Ŕ] ŤhěxĐâŕkśîđěŕ
Wait...So you mean I don't have to log in with the same password there?

Re: Ban system

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:37 pm
by Chaos13
You do. If you log in with different password, game wont give inventory to you. When checking, it checks NAME and PASSWORD.

Re: Ban system

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:40 pm
by [§Ŕ] ŤhěxĐâŕkśîđěŕ
But does it only check when somebody's banned (LOL) or every time? Cuz i used to log in there every time with different password.

Re: Ban system

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:41 pm
by Chaos13
Idk IIRC not.
And this is getting pretty off-topic.
Please keep the theme on-topic.
I think we were discussing ban system.
I think i answered your question :P
I mean both questions

Re: Ban system

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:46 pm
by [§Ŕ] ŤhěxĐâŕkśîđěŕ
Oh sorry I didn't notice that it' s going off-topic. :( But I think I'm going back to topic with this question. I once just lost my stuff. No special reason. Was it a kind of ban or an error?

Re: Ban system

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:03 pm
by Chaos13
Possibly:
  • Server crash
  • Server restart
  • Password change
  • Name change
  • Table overload (for permanent inventory mods)
  • User.ini modification (if gemdagger (hyper servers))

Re: Ban system

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:12 pm
by [§Ŕ] ŤhěxĐâŕkśîđěŕ
Server crash - no, others had their stuff
Server restart - same
Password change - it changes every time i log on
Name change - i have it binded on a key
Table overload (for permanent inventory mods) - i think no; read below
User.ini modification (if gemdagger (hyper servers)) - no; also Zora's server

Actually my brother was playing and he finished Harobed with stuff and started TerraLift without it. We together had then about 4-5 names, only one of my brother's names worked (a bit different) and i had to use another guy's name that had almost the same stuff like me. Weird. :-?

Re: Ban system

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:27 pm
by Chaos13
Password change - it changes every time i log on
That is a bug, when 227 client connects

Re: Ban system

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:41 pm
by []KAOS[]Casey
if you join a server with password like we added, it wont be random

Re: Ban system

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:04 pm
by Chaos13
Better use MD5 hash of server's name + your ident + your ident2 as password (^^)

Re: Ban system

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:26 am
by Hyper
Hm, I've hardly ever been banned. A few times on questionable coop servers where the admin did not like me.

More often I've been kicked from servers who did not like the name of my computer or certain customisations in my .ini files.

Re: Ban system

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:30 pm
by GreatEmerald
Yea, I never got banned from anywhere on Unreal series games, but UT2004 anticheats sometimes kick me because I have a lot of mods, some of them aren't "known" :P Like, UC2 announcer and UTXMP pathed to main UT2004.