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Re: Error without any logs
Reply #20 - 04/22/11 at 10:00:39

GreatEmerald wrote on 04/22/11 at 07:54:35:

No, they did release the drivers (very buggy, but open-source, though without documentation IIRC). They're called ctxfi and are included in ALSA.

Argh, you're talking about that crappy and buggy thing they had at first released as a close-source only thing supporting 64-bit linux systems and then later on opened sources and contributed them to the alsa devs? Then yeah, there was such thing as a linux sound card driver from Creative but it is no more for a pretty long time though as snd-ctxfi is a community-maintained software. Sad but true, looks like Creative had never been interested in offering greater level of support to the linux community.

GreatEmerald wrote on 04/22/11 at 07:54:35:

This is the output:
Code:

dainius@linux:~> aplay -l
**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: XFi [Creative X-Fi], device 0: ctxfi [Front/WaveIn]
  Subdevices: 8/8
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
  Subdevice #1: subdevice #1
  Subdevice #2: subdevice #2
  Subdevice #3: subdevice #3
  Subdevice #4: subdevice #4
  Subdevice #5: subdevice #5
  Subdevice #6: subdevice #6
  Subdevice #7: subdevice #7
card 0: XFi [Creative X-Fi], device 1: ctxfi [Surround]
  Subdevices: 8/8
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
  Subdevice #1: subdevice #1
  Subdevice #2: subdevice #2
  Subdevice #3: subdevice #3
  Subdevice #4: subdevice #4
  Subdevice #5: subdevice #5
  Subdevice #6: subdevice #6
  Subdevice #7: subdevice #7
card 0: XFi [Creative X-Fi], device 2: ctxfi [Center/LFE]
  Subdevices: 8/8
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
  Subdevice #1: subdevice #1
  Subdevice #2: subdevice #2
  Subdevice #3: subdevice #3
  Subdevice #4: subdevice #4
  Subdevice #5: subdevice #5
  Subdevice #6: subdevice #6
  Subdevice #7: subdevice #7
card 0: XFi [Creative X-Fi], device 3: ctxfi [Side]
  Subdevices: 8/8
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
  Subdevice #1: subdevice #1
  Subdevice #2: subdevice #2
  Subdevice #3: subdevice #3
  Subdevice #4: subdevice #4
  Subdevice #5: subdevice #5
  Subdevice #6: subdevice #6
  Subdevice #7: subdevice #7
card 0: XFi [Creative X-Fi], device 4: ctxfi [IEC958 Non-audio]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC888 Analog [ALC888 Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 1: ALC888 Digital [ALC888 Digital]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 2: HDMI [HDA ATI HDMI], device 3: ATI HDMI [ATI HDMI]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
dainius@linux:~> aplay -L
null
    Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture)
default:CARD=XFi
    Creative X-Fi, Front/WaveIn
    Default Audio Device
front:CARD=XFi,DEV=0
    Creative X-Fi, Front/WaveIn
    Front speakers
rear:CARD=XFi,DEV=0
    Creative X-Fi, Surround
    Rear speakers
center_lfe:CARD=XFi,DEV=0
    Creative X-Fi, Center/LFE
    Center and Subwoofer speakers
side:CARD=XFi,DEV=0
    Creative X-Fi, Side
    Side speakers
surround40:CARD=XFi,DEV=0
    Creative X-Fi, Front/WaveIn
    4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
surround41:CARD=XFi,DEV=0
    Creative X-Fi, Front/WaveIn
    4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround50:CARD=XFi,DEV=0
    Creative X-Fi, Front/WaveIn
    5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers
surround51:CARD=XFi,DEV=0
    Creative X-Fi, Front/WaveIn
    5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround71:CARD=XFi,DEV=0
    Creative X-Fi, Front/WaveIn
    7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers
iec958:CARD=XFi,DEV=0
    Creative X-Fi, IEC958 Non-audio
    IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output
default:CARD=SB
    HDA ATI SB, ALC888 Analog
    Default Audio Device
front:CARD=SB,DEV=0
    HDA ATI SB, ALC888 Analog
    Front speakers
surround40:CARD=SB,DEV=0
    HDA ATI SB, ALC888 Analog
    4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
surround41:CARD=SB,DEV=0
    HDA ATI SB, ALC888 Analog
    4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround50:CARD=SB,DEV=0
    HDA ATI SB, ALC888 Analog
    5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers
surround51:CARD=SB,DEV=0
    HDA ATI SB, ALC888 Analog
    5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround71:CARD=SB,DEV=0
    HDA ATI SB, ALC888 Analog
    7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers
iec958:CARD=SB,DEV=0
    HDA ATI SB, ALC888 Digital
    IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output
hdmi:CARD=HDMI
    HDA ATI HDMI, ATI HDMI
    HDMI Audio Output
dainius@linux:~> cat /proc/asound/version
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.22.1.

Hmm, apparently my ALSA version is 1.0.22.1, and they have included a few updates for ctxfi in 1.0.23 and 1.0.24, but they don't seem to be very important.

So, here we go. On your system you've got three sound cards - X-Fi, integrated ATI chipset sound and videocard HDMI output. Most advanced card is X-Fi that's seems to be capable of hardware-mixing eight simultaneous sound streams from different sources. Unfortunately, there's no wasy way to tell if you've got PA installed as the default PCM output plugin, so it might be easier to temporarily create basic ~/.asoundrc file containing this:

Code:

pcm.!default mytst

ctl.mytst {
  type hw
  card 0
}

pcm.mytst {
  type hw
  card 0
}

Save it, make sure you had configured both ALAudio and FMOD drivers to use ALSA and then try to start Unreal using pasuspender like this:
Code:

# pasuspender ./UnrealLinux.bin

pasuspender should temporarily suspend PA in case it's running for the time you would play Unreal.

Also it might be required to create personal OpenAL-soft configuration file that would disable OpenAL's PA output plugin. It should be called ~/.alsoftrc and most basic form should look like this:
Code:

frequency = 48000
resampler = 1
rt-prio = 0
period_size = 1024
periods = 4
sources = 256
drivers = alsa

[alsa]
device = default
capture = default
mmap = true

Last, but not least, reconfigure the game to use 48000 sample rate instead of default 44100 (or even 22050, don't remember exactly) for both sfx and music. EMU chips tends to use internal sample rate that's is multiple of 48000 since the emu10k days, so it's better to use sample rate that would not require hardware resample from 44100 to 48000/96000/192000.

« Last Edit: 04/22/11 at 10:02:07 by LeXa2 (A. Loukianov) »

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Re: Error without any logs
Reply #21 - 04/22/11 at 17:59:31

Well, their drivers on Windows are really not that much better. Creative had never been interested in offering greater level of support to anyone, and it's a historic fact... They are great at hardware, great with OpenAL and EFX, but when it comes to drivers, yeah...

My output rate is already at 48000 by default.

And no, nothing here made any difference whatsoever...

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Re: Error without any logs
Reply #22 - 04/23/11 at 01:35:08

GreatEmerald wrote on 04/22/11 at 17:59:31:

...
And no, nothing here made any difference whatsoever...

Pretty strange, though.

Had you tried falling back into using your chipset-integrated soundcard? It may be set to be default using ~/.asoundrc. And I'm still not concerned about PA status on your system. What's name of the soundcard that's being displayed when you run console alsamixer utility (it might be not installed by default, but seems to be available in every distro I had tried so far)? What's is the output of "ps axu | grep -i 'pulse' | grep -v 'grep'"? Had you tried to play with the value of FMODUseHardwareChannels (for ex. set it to True and try different values for FMODHardwareChannels in the range from 4 up to 128)? Also, try to set ProbeDevicesOnly=True in both FMOD and ALAudio sections of ini and then to run the game with "-log" command line parameter. It should display (and write to the log file) all the devices FMOD had found on your system, so you'd be able to specify the exact device to use by configuring the FMODDevices setting.

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Reply #23 - 04/23/11 at 12:15:19

alsamixer says Creative X-Fi. From the card selection menu it's #0.
That command output is:
Code:

dainius@linux:~> ps axu | grep -i 'pulse' | grep -v 'grep'
dainius   2324  0.0  0.1 217984  5812 ?        Ssl  11:48   0:00 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog

No change when FMODUseHardwareChannels is set to true on any amount of channels set.

Using ProbeDevicesOnly Gives me this output with OpenAL:
Code:

Bound to ALAudio.so
ALDEVICES found 1:ALSASoftware
Setting FMODOutput to ALSA
FMOD device found 0:default
FMOD device found 1:cards
FMOD device found 2:front
FMOD device found 3:rear
FMOD device found 4:centerlfe
FMOD device found 5:side
FMOD device found 6:surround40
FMOD device found 7:surround41
FMOD device found 8:surround50
FMOD device found 9:surround51
FMOD device found 10:surround71
FMOD device found 11:iec958
FMOD device found 12:spdif
FMOD device found 13:hdmi
FMOD device found 14:dmix
FMOD device found 15:dsnoop
FMOD device found 16:modem
FMOD device found 17:phoneline
FMOD device found 18:hw
FMOD device found 19:plughw
FMOD device found 20:plug
FMOD device found 21:shm
FMOD device found 22:tee
FMOD device found 23:file
FMOD device found 24:null
FMOD device found 25:default
FMOD device found 26:mytst
4014.6ms Loading: Package ALAudio
Checking package ALAudio
Audio initialization failed.

And when using FMOD only:
Code:

Bound to FMODAudioDrv.so
Setting FMODOutput to ALSA
FMOD device found 0:default
FMOD device found 1:cards
FMOD device found 2:front
FMOD device found 3:rear
FMOD device found 4:centerlfe
FMOD device found 5:side
FMOD device found 6:surround40
FMOD device found 7:surround41
FMOD device found 8:surround50
FMOD device found 9:surround51
FMOD device found 10:surround71
FMOD device found 11:iec958
FMOD device found 12:spdif
FMOD device found 13:hdmi
FMOD device found 14:dmix
FMOD device found 15:dsnoop
FMOD device found 16:modem
FMOD device found 17:phoneline
FMOD device found 18:hw
FMOD device found 19:plughw
FMOD device found 20:plug
FMOD device found 21:shm
FMOD device found 22:tee
FMOD device found 23:file
FMOD device found 24:null
FMOD device found 25:default
FMOD device found 26:mytst
Audio initialization failed.

And if I add this to .asoundrc:
Code:

pcm.!default front:SB

It gives me this when launching the game:
Code:

EFX Extensions found
FMOD init failed with 32 Channels and OutputRate of 48000Hz - ignoring ini settings and trying failsafe values
FMOD couldn't init!

However, OpenAL part works fine, I can hear sounds through the other sound card.

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Re: Error without any logs
Reply #24 - 04/23/11 at 12:41:08

GreatEmerald, looks like I had reproduced your problem on my home PC. Please, try the following: edit your UnrealLinux.ini file and set your audio driver to be FMOD like this:
Code:

...

[Engine.Engine]
...
AudioDevice=FMODAudioDrv.FMODAudioDevice
;AudioDevice=ALAudio.ALAudioSubsystem
...

Head on into FMODAudioDrv section settings and make it look like this:
Code:

[FMODAudioDrv.FMODAudioDevice]
FMODOutputs=ALSA
;FMODDevices=default/devdsp (devdsp for OSS only), use ProbeDevices for a complete list.
FMODDevices=default
UseOriginalUnreal=True
SoundVolume=192
UseReverb=True
AmbientFactor=0.700000
UseHardwareChannels=False
HardwareChannels=32
Channels=32
MusicVolume=128
MusicPanSeparation=0.800000
UseDigitalMusic=True
UseCDMusic=False
bSoundAttenuate=True
;Speakers=Dolbydigital/Headphones/Mono/Quad/Stereo/Surround
Speakers=Stereo
ProbeDevicesOnly=False
DopplerSpeed=6500
OutputRates=6

Then start up the game and check if the sound would crackling. If your problem is the same as I reproduced here then there would be crackling with this config. Then, exit the game, edit the ini and set OutputRates (NOTICE: it should be OutputRates and not OutputRate!) to 1. Start up the game and check for the absence of crackling (and for huge degradation of the sound quality). Report your results here. Please, include the logs game would create if you launch it with "-log" command line parameter to make. It would assist debugging greatly.

P.S. Also, please try to launch the game with OutputRates set to 3, 4 and 5 and report results here in case you would find some free time for this.

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Re: Error without any logs
Reply #25 - 04/23/11 at 12:48:28

GreatEmerald wrote on 04/23/11 at 12:15:19:

alsamixer says Creative X-Fi. From the card selection menu it's #0.
That command output is:
Code:

dainius@linux:~> ps axu | grep -i 'pulse' | grep -v 'grep'
dainius   2324  0.0  0.1 217984  5812 ?        Ssl  11:48   0:00 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog

Hadn't spotted your new post while been posting mine. OK, so you've got pulseaudio running which makes me believe it might be set as the default ALSA plugin. You should definitely use pasuspender to start up the game and also it is required to create appropriate ~/.asoundrc and ~/.alsoftrc just to be sure PA isn't used.

~/.asoundrc I use for testing looks like this:
Code:

#pcm.default = pluglx2
pcm.!default = pluglx2

pcm.plugdmix {
    type plug
    slave.pcm {
        type dmix
        ipc_key 2734
        slave{
            pcm {
                type hw
                card 0
                device 0
                subdevice 0
            }
            rate 48000
        }
    }
}

pcm.pluglx2 {
    type plug
    slave {
        pcm {
            type hw
            card 0
            device 0
        }
        rate 48000
    }
}

pcm.hwlx2 {
    type hw
    card 0
    device 0
}

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Re: Error without any logs
Reply #26 - 04/23/11 at 13:25:40

All right, testing with OutputRates 6:
Crackling is heard. The log is here - http://pastebin.com/SYthLixg

OutputRates 1:
Crackling is NOT heard! And yes, the quality is not too good here, and the music starts when I am flying through the torches instead of instantly. The log is here - http://pastebin.com/ugQN0Hiw

Thinking about it, why was it set to '48000Hz' by default, and there was also an option 'OutputRate=48000Hz' as well? After all, 'Hz' is not something Unreal can parse if it expects an integer.

Also, I can't test it with pasuspender and expect to see the log since it interprets any arguments as arguments for pasuspender and not Unreal. But it doesn't make any difference anyway.

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Reply #27 - 04/23/11 at 14:00:23

GreatEmerald wrote on 04/23/11 at 13:25:40:

Thinking about it, why was it set to '48000Hz' by default, and there was also an option 'OutputRate=48000Hz' as well? After all, 'Hz' is not something Unreal can parse if it expects an integer.

Never mind, it most probably would be fixed before 227h release. It's the bug Smirf and I had found today and are cracking our heads on discussing it in the IRC at since 10am today.

GreatEmerald wrote on 04/23/11 at 13:25:40:

Also, I can't test it with pasuspender and expect to see the log since it interprets any arguments as arguments for pasuspender and not Unreal. But it doesn't make any difference anyway.

Run is as "pasuspender -- ./UnrealLinux.bin -log".

As for crackling bug - I had found it's cause and currently in process of making patch for FMOD driver. As same problem affects OpenAL driver and the code base for FMOD initialization is mostly the same, 227h would fix music crackling for bot FMOD and OpenAL.

For now you may wish to use following .asounrc paired with OpenAL driver to play unreal. With such settings there are no music crackling on my system for FMOD-produced sounds.
Code:

pcm.!default = plugdmix

pcm.plugdmix {
    type plug
    slave.pcm {
        type dmix
        ipc_key 2734
        slave{
            pcm {
                type hw
                card 0
                device 0
                subdevice 0
            }
            rate 48000
        }
    }
}

In case it wouldn't help you may wish to add period_size 2048 and periods 32 settings into slave section of plugdmix right after the "rate 48000". You may would like to experiment a bit replacing 2048 with 1024 or 4096 and 32 with 8, 16, 64 or 128.

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Reply #28 - 04/23/11 at 15:13:28

Yeap, that fixed it... for the most part. The thing is that music stops playing after a while. The times it takes for it to stop varies, sometimes it's after a quarter of a cycle, sometimes it takes two cycles or more, but it always happens.

EDIT: setting period size possibly fixed that, but not certain because it was difficult to reproduce earlier as well...

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Reply #29 - 04/27/11 at 22:41:08

I seem to be having a very similar issue but the fixes suggested above don't seem to work.

Code:

[eamonn@margrave01 System]$ xhost + ; ./UnrealLinux.bin -log
access control disabled, clients can connect from any host
Processors / Cores 4
0.6ms Loading: Package Engine
64.2ms Loading: Package Core
Checking package Core
Checking package Engine
Unreal engine initialized
Detected 0 joysticks
SDLClient initialized.
Bound to Render.so
108.4ms Loading: Package Render
Checking package Render
Lighting subsystem initialized
Rendering initialized
LoadMap: EntryII.unr
Get PackageLinker for file: EntryII.unr
110.7ms Loading: Package EntryII
122.6ms Loading: Package PlayrShp
125.6ms Loading: Package Detail
Bound to Fire.so
127.3ms Loading: Package Fire
Checking package Fire
132.4ms Loading: Package GenIn
134.7ms Loading: Package Starship
138.2ms Loading: Package GenFX
Bound to Emitter.so
142.2ms Loading: Package Emitter
151.0ms Loading: Package UnrealShare
Checking package Emitter
274.3ms Loading: Package genfluid
276.6ms Loading: Package UnrealI
Bound to Editor.so
325.1ms Loading: Package Editor
Checking package Editor
330.5ms Loading: Package GenWarp
331.8ms Loading: Package Footsteps
336.3ms Loading: Package AmbAncient
338.3ms Loading: Package Skaarj
341.4ms Loading: Package Doorsmod
343.1ms Loading: Package Ambmodern
Get PackageLinker for file: EntryII.unr
Collecting garbage
Purging garbage
2102.1ms Unloading: Package Render
Garbage: objects: 11653->11652; refs: 144221
Bringing Level EntryII.MyLevel up for play (0)...
InitGame:
Difficulty 1
Remote Administration with Password
Base Mutator is EntryII.Mutator0
Initialized moving brush tracker for Level EntryII.MyLevel
Browse: Unreal.unr?Name=Player?Class=UnrealI.FemaleOne
LoadMap: Unreal.unr?Name=Player?Class=UnrealI.FemaleOne
Get PackageLinker for file: Unreal.unr
2119.4ms Loading: Package Unreal
2141.4ms Loading: Package NaliCast
2145.2ms Loading: Package GenEarth
2148.2ms Loading: Package NALIFX
2150.7ms Loading: Package Amboutside
2153.1ms Loading: Package DoorsAnc
2155.3ms Loading: Package Liquids
2157.4ms Loading: Package flyby
Get PackageLinker for file: Unreal.unr
Collecting garbage
Purging garbage
Garbage: objects: 12370->12300; refs: 170848
Bringing Level Unreal.MyLevel up for play (0)...
InitGame: ?Name=Player?Class=UnrealI.FemaleOne
Difficulty 1
Remote Administration with Password
Base Mutator is Unreal.Mutator1
Initialized moving brush tracker for Level Unreal.MyLevel
Created and initialized a new SDL viewport.
2756.8ms Loading: Package UBrowser
2776.9ms Loading: Package UWindow
Bound to IpDrv.so
2827.1ms Loading: Package IpDrv
Checking package IpDrv
Login: Player
Possessed PlayerPawn: FemaleOne Unreal.FemaleOne0
All inventory from Player is accepted
Input system initialized for SDLViewport
TTS: No output filename specified.
Opening SDL viewport.
Bound to OpenGLDrv.so
Loaded render device class.
Initializing OpenGLDrv...
binding libGL.so.1
OpenGL
OpenGL
No localization: appUnixPath.General.Product (int)
GL_VENDOR     : NVIDIA Corporation
GL_RENDERER   : GeForce 8800 GT/PCI/SSE2
GL_VERSION    : 3.3.0 NVIDIA 260.19.36
Device supports: GL_EXT_bgra
Device supports: GL_ARB_texture_compression
Device supports: GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc
Device supports: GL_EXT_texture_env_combine
Device supports: GL_ARB_texture_env_combine
Device supports: GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic
Device supports: GL_NV_texture_env_combine4
Device supports: GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias
Device supports: GL_EXT_secondary_color
Device supports: GL_ARB_multitexture
Device supports: GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays
Device supports: GL_ARB_vertex_program
Device supports: GL_ARB_fragment_program
Depth bits: 16
4 Texture Mapping Units found
MaxAnisotropy: 16
Trying to use S3TC extension.
MinLogTextureSize: 2
MaxLogTextureSize: 13
BufferActorTris: 1
UseDetailAlpha: 1
3544.0ms Loading: Package ALAudio
Failed to load 'Class ALAudio.ALAudioSubsystem': Failed to find object 'Class ALAudio.ALAudioSubsystem'

appError called:

Executing UObject::StaticShutdownAfterError
Executing USDLClient::ShutdownAfterError
UOpenGLRenderDevice::ShutdownAfterError


History:

Exiting due to error
appRequestExit(1)
[eamonn@margrave01 System]$

Installing the convenience libraries in ~/Unreal/System/ didn't seem to make any difference.

OpenAL is installed:

openal-soft-1.12.854-1.fc14.i686
openal-soft-1.12.854-1.fc14.x86_64

FMOD isn't available (even in rpmfusion it would seem).

-nosound does work but is clearly somewhat limiting.

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